Mark Ingram to visit Saints on wednesday

lsutigerfan · 04-14-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

If he slips, he'll likely be the BPA at 24.

I doubt he slips but you have to consider all circumstances.

True Dat, But I never thought Duece McAllister was gonna slip to us as far as he did either. There is only 1 offensive player I would even consider in the first and that's Mark Ingram and that's only if the guys I want at LB and DE are gone.

foreverfan · 04-14-2011, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't want O necessarily, but if an A-plus offensive player is there at 24, and nothing but B-minus defensive players, we'd be idiots to pick defense.

Teams that reach usually end up picking very high in the draft year after year.

He would be the best player available for sure.

foreverfan · 04-14-2011, 01:03 PM

Heck of a post Paz...

What do you think you could get for any of the Saints RBs? A 5th maybe?

I'm kind of with Strato on this one... he'll be gone.

papz · 04-14-2011, 01:31 PM

Initial 5th round value sounds about right... but there's always those booster clauses increasing it's value. Now while I do find them all of value and tradeable, I don't see why we would given their production and the fact we re-signed(or going to) them... no point in trading them afterwards.

Now if we threw a curveball and decided not to restructure Reggie, then I'd be more open to the idea of drafting Ingram early. But for me right now... it just doesn't make much sense drafting a guy while giving him less than 10 touches a game with the stable of backs we have on the roster. I'd rather draft a guy that will give us 30-40 snaps on defense immediately.

But hell... we're the Saints. We're probably going to do something none of us thought and take a quarterback anyways. So it's all hypotheticals.

Beastmode · 04-14-2011, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

Miami is the only team I could see grabbing him before we would get the opportunity. QB is a big need for them, but at 15 Newton and Gabbert would be gone and I dont see Locker going that high.

Word is Riveria is not sold on getting a QB with the first pick and I don't blame him. Neither one of those QBs are worth it. I know it's not entirely up to him, but if that happens Miami may get their QB and Ingram's chances of falling to the Saints drastically improve.

Cory9289 · 04-14-2011, 05:34 PM

In my opinion, I'd go with Ingram over any D. I remember a year or so ago watching Ingram and was like, that's the perfect RB right there...

It's not just he's good, but defense in my opinion relies less on just "good" players. Williams could make one of us do okay in the defense. But a RB has to be good, in my opinion.

foreverfan · 04-14-2011, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by papz

But for me right now... it just doesn't make much sense drafting a guy while giving him less than 10 touches a game with the stable of backs we have on the roster. I'd rather draft a guy that will give us 30-40 snaps on defense immediately.

But hell... we're the Saints. We're probably going to do something none of us thought and take a quarterback anyways. So it's all hypotheticals.

I just remember the end of last season and Bush can't finish a play much less a season. I don't consider him a viable option at RB. In fact given how injury prone Ivory is, we really only have one RB besides unproven Halminton.

Regardless... We win with Brees and I want him to have all the tools he needs.
The draft could go defense and I still be ok.

QBREES9 · 04-17-2011, 12:02 AM

Yeah Papz great post

04-14-2011, 12:46 PM	#41
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Originally Posted by Danno If he slips, he'll likely be the BPA at 24. I doubt he slips but you have to consider all circumstances. True Dat, But I never thought Duece McAllister was gonna slip to us as far as he did either. There is only 1 offensive player I would even consider in the first and that's Mark Ingram and that's only if the guys I want at LB and DE are gone.

04-14-2011, 12:59 PM	#42
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno I don't want O necessarily, but if an A-plus offensive player is there at 24, and nothing but B-minus defensive players, we'd be idiots to pick defense. Teams that reach usually end up picking very high in the draft year after year. He would be the best player available for sure.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Initial 5th round value sounds about right... but there's always those booster clauses increasing it's value. Now while I do find them all of value and tradeable, I don't see why we would given their production and the fact we re-signed(or going to) them... no point in trading them afterwards. Now if we threw a curveball and decided not to restructure Reggie, then I'd be more open to the idea of drafting Ingram early. But for me right now... it just doesn't make much sense drafting a guy while giving him less than 10 touches a game with the stable of backs we have on the roster. I'd rather draft a guy that will give us 30-40 snaps on defense immediately. But hell... we're the Saints. We're probably going to do something none of us thought and take a quarterback anyways. So it's all hypotheticals.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan Miami is the only team I could see grabbing him before we would get the opportunity. QB is a big need for them, but at 15 Newton and Gabbert would be gone and I dont see Locker going that high. Word is Riveria is not sold on getting a QB with the first pick and I don't blame him. Neither one of those QBs are worth it. I know it's not entirely up to him, but if that happens Miami may get their QB and Ingram's chances of falling to the Saints drastically improve.
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Cory9289 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 275	In my opinion, I'd go with Ingram over any D. I remember a year or so ago watching Ingram and was like, that's the perfect RB right there... It's not just he's good, but defense in my opinion relies less on just "good" players. Williams could make one of us do okay in the defense. But a RB has to be good, in my opinion.
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04-14-2011, 01:03 PM	#43
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Heck of a post Paz... What do you think you could get for any of the Saints RBs? A 5th maybe? I'm kind of with Strato on this one... he'll be gone.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by papz But for me right now... it just doesn't make much sense drafting a guy while giving him less than 10 touches a game with the stable of backs we have on the roster. I'd rather draft a guy that will give us 30-40 snaps on defense immediately. But hell... we're the Saints. We're probably going to do something none of us thought and take a quarterback anyways. So it's all hypotheticals. I just remember the end of last season and Bush can't finish a play much less a season. I don't consider him a viable option at RB. In fact given how injury prone Ivory is, we really only have one RB besides unproven Halminton. Regardless... We win with Brees and I want him to have all the tools he needs. The draft could go defense and I still be ok.

04-17-2011, 12:02 AM	#48
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Yeah Papz great post