ESPN Top Ranked Safeties (Harper 13, Jenkins 15)

papz · 05-06-2011, 06:36 AM

I like your insight; but on Harper, well look at the production

2010 Official Stats: 8 Passes Defensed, 3 Sacks, & 1 Interception; For the whole season...Wow

Not too mention being run down by a rookie quarterback; I would have retired and become a bartender on Miami Beach...

And those three blown coverages in the playoff game for three (3) PaTd Allowed during do or die time; he's lucky he wasn't sleeping with the fishes...

The guy sucks and Greg Williams is trying to inflate his confidence so he'll play better; no matter how you polish or package it...it's still ****, well a pet rock...

Let's not forget the 98 tackles and 6 forced fumbles.

From a statistical standpoing, 98 tackles, 6 FF, 8 PD, 3 sacks, and 1 INT from the SS position is really damn good. Your use of his numbers does nothing to prove he's a terrible player and holds no water.

Roman Harper is not an elite player... but to say he flat out sucks just once again reiterates to me that you are terrible at evaluating talent.

jeanpierre · 05-06-2011, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Let's not forget the 98 tackles and 6 forced fumbles.

From a statistical standpoing, 98 tackles, 6 FF, 8 PD, 3 sacks, and 1 INT from the SS position is really damn good. Your use of his numbers does nothing to prove he's a terrible player and holds no water.

Roman Harper is not an elite player... but to say he flat out sucks just once again reiterates to me that you are terrible at evaluating talent.

Do you watch Saints football; obviously not...

He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott...

How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position?

How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position?

His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them...

How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face...

And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage).

How you become a moderator is beyond me...

papz · 05-06-2011, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Do you watch Saints football; obviously not...

No but it's become apparent that you don't.

He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott...

How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position?

How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position?

From a statistical standpoint, this shows you're oblivious to what the other guy's numbers are. If you go back and re-read my statement, yes... those numbers are very good for a strong safety who plays close to the line.

His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them...

Bias. Some strange reason why I keep attaching your name with this word... odd.

How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face...

David R. Tran, OD
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New Orleans , LA - 70114
Phone: 504-368-7081

He's a good friend of mine... just tell him I sent you there.

And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage).

Because this automatically makes you a bad player.

How you become a moderator is beyond me...

Aw... your feelings get hurt again?

horsebot · 05-06-2011, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Do you watch Saints football; obviously not...

He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott...

How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position?

How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position?

His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them...

How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face...

And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage).

How you become a moderator is beyond me...

So Harper's stats aren't that great?

Let's see how he compares to Wilson, the best SS on the list;

Wilson

total tackles - 88
sacks - 2
ints - 2
forced fumbles - 0
passes defended - 9

Harper

total tackles - 98
sacks - 3
ints - 1
forced fumbles - 6
passes defended - 8

Stacks up pretty well for a terrible player!

05-06-2011, 06:36 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	I like your insight; but on Harper, well look at the production 2010 Official Stats: 8 Passes Defensed, 3 Sacks, & 1 Interception; For the whole season...Wow Not too mention being run down by a rookie quarterback; I would have retired and become a bartender on Miami Beach... And those three blown coverages in the playoff game for three (3) PaTd Allowed during do or die time; he's lucky he wasn't sleeping with the fishes... The guy sucks and Greg Williams is trying to inflate his confidence so he'll play better; no matter how you polish or package it...it's still **, well a pet rock... Let's not forget the 98 tackles and 6 forced fumbles. From a statistical standpoing, 98 tackles, 6 FF, 8 PD, 3 sacks, and 1 INT from the SS position is really** damn good. Your use of his numbers does nothing to prove he's a terrible player and holds no water. Roman Harper is not an elite player... but to say he flat out sucks just once again reiterates to me that you are terrible at evaluating talent.

05-06-2011, 06:51 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by papz Let's not forget the 98 tackles and 6 forced fumbles. From a statistical standpoing, 98 tackles, 6 FF, 8 PD, 3 sacks, and 1 INT from the SS position is really damn good. Your use of his numbers does nothing to prove he's a terrible player and holds no water. Roman Harper is not an elite player... but to say he flat out sucks just once again reiterates to me that you are terrible at evaluating talent. Do you watch Saints football; obviously not... He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott... How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position? How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position? His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them... How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face... And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage). How you become a moderator is beyond me...
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05-06-2011, 07:01 AM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Do you watch Saints football; obviously not... No but it's become apparent that you don't. He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott... How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position? How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position? From a statistical standpoint, this shows you're oblivious to what the other guy's numbers are. If you go back and re-read my statement, yes... those numbers are very good for a strong safety who plays close to the line. His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them... Bias. Some strange reason why I keep attaching your name with this word... odd. How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face... David R. Tran, OD Optometrist - Metairie 3501 Holiday Dr Suite 201 New Orleans , LA - 70114 Phone: 504-368-7081 He's a good friend of mine... just tell him I sent you there. And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage). Because this automatically makes you a bad player. How you become a moderator is beyond me... Aw... your feelings get hurt again?
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05-06-2011, 07:45 AM	#4
horsebot Rookie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Do you watch Saints football; obviously not... He was clearly isolated and targeted in the Seattle Playoff game because He Can't Cover Schiott... How is 8 PD defensed pretty good from the Safety position? How is 1 Int pretty damned good from the Safety position? His talent by those numbers is obviously for his teammates to hold an opposing ball runner up so he can wheelchair over and strip them... How is it that when numbers are clearly presented that show he's a subpar player you can't see the obvious when it stares you in the face... And you obviously didn't see him caught from behind by a quarterback when he clearly had a jump (that's a large advantage). How you become a moderator is beyond me... So Harper's stats aren't that great? Let's see how he compares to Wilson, the best SS on the list; Wilson total tackles - 88 sacks - 2 ints - 2 forced fumbles - 0 passes defended - 9 Harper total tackles - 98 sacks - 3 ints - 1 forced fumbles - 6 passes defended - 8 Stacks up pretty well for a terrible player!
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