Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history....

saint5221 · 12-21-2003, 04:55 PM

I call it a fantasic day

I guess I just have a little higher standard for the assessment of fantastic. Don\'t mean to single a word out when there is plenty to agonize over today that had more to do with what happened on the field. Ugly loss and dissapointing way to watch a dissapointing season die.

BillyC · 12-21-2003, 05:03 PM

saint5221 -- I really don\'t know what else Brooks could have done. Given the circumstance that Brooks was in, I think he made great plays and decisions. He completed passes when they blitzed and threw the ball away when nothing was there. Today either Brooks had to complete passes or there was NOTHING there.

McCarthy\'s play calling absolutely sucked and put the offense in bad situations, time after time. Brooks bailed the offense out so many times after McCarthy kept running Deuce up the middlle for NO gain. Honestly, what else could Brooks have done? He completed 60% of his passes on one of the best defenses in the league. He also threw some great deep passes that were dropped. His stats were fantasitic but it goes way beyond stats today. He made great reads, good decisions, etc, etc..........

[Edited on 21/12/2003 by BillyC]

whowatches · 12-21-2003, 05:07 PM

Brooks played well enough for us to win the game. The offensive line could\'ve played better, and Deuce could\'ve held on to the ball.

Brooks was fine today. This game sucks bad enough as it is. Let\'s please not turn this into an Aaron Brooks thread. This week is gonna be hard enough as it is,

saint5221 · 12-21-2003, 05:11 PM

Like I said the Brooks stuff is about semantics not worth commenting on any more.

McCarthy\'s play call absolutely sucked and put the offense in bad situations,

This I think is an issue to the heart of the problem today. We were having no success with the run and it was being called to often in obvious situations. I truly believe the game plan was the single biggest flaws on the field today next to the run defense.

blake6900 · 12-21-2003, 05:14 PM

Hey, BillyC...Why do you think McCarthy\'s playcalling is so bad? Not just this one game but more often than not? Could it be that the Saints\' playbook has had to be slimmed down to just a few plays so as to not complicate things for Brooks? Let\'s face it...this offense runs the same plays over and over. And AB runs into all sorts of trouble trying to call audibles. Not to mention reading defenses, blah, blah, blah.

When McCarthy was at Green Bay, that offense was never accused of simplicity so why is it that way here?

Think about it...

BillyC · 12-21-2003, 05:15 PM

Ok, let me think about it. Should I discuss Aaron Brooks with a known Brooks basher that has never said anything positive about the guy? NO!!

BillyC · 12-21-2003, 05:28 PM

You\'re a loser! Who cares.

Where\'s my ignore Gator button. Oh here it is --

Danno · 12-21-2003, 05:29 PM

Deuce McAllister-2nd year starter, Saints 16-15 with him starting. WOW, I\'m blown away!
Most of you are all over his nutz worshipping this guy when it could be shown by the same criteria Brooks bashers use that this guy has cost us a playoff spot.
Yea, he\'s good. But most of you guys swear he\'s the greatest Saint EVER after only two good years.
There are no winners on this team YET .

EVERY PLAYER ON THIS TEAM IS A LOSER.

If you insist on bashing Aaron Brooks then I feel you must also look at the ENTIRE team, because I think all 53 guys (plus all the injury fill-ins) had a hand in every loss.

Fred Taylor owned Deuce McAllister today.

lumm0x · 12-21-2003, 05:32 PM

Danno...that comment is completely ridiculous.

Deuce, running behind a lackluster o-line, was manhandled by a top 2 rushing defense. Taylor blasted apart a completely useless rush defense that my Grandma in her wheelchair could have got 100 yds on.

Compare apples to apples. I know everyone is upset right now but that is ridiculous.

BillyC · 12-21-2003, 05:34 PM

I\'m not trying to debate you. There are other members that read this board and other members that have replied to this tread.

Don\'t flatter yourself Billy. I don\'t care what you think about my season report. But I know what burns you up is the fact more guys will agree with me than they will with you.

Here\'s my little secret. <wispering> \"common sense\"

Besides anyone see this as a BASH ON BROOKS? I don\'t. But when you are critical of a man\'s lover, he tends to get sensitive.

Maybe you should try talking about football instead of members. I wouldn\'t want you to get banned again Gator. Now you are officially ignored!!

12-21-2003, 04:55 PM	#21
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... I call it a fantasic day I guess I just have a little higher standard for the assessment of fantastic. Don\'t mean to single a word out when there is plenty to agonize over today that had more to do with what happened on the field. Ugly loss and dissapointing way to watch a dissapointing season die.
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12-21-2003, 05:03 PM	#22
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... saint5221 -- I really don\'t know what else Brooks could have done. Given the circumstance that Brooks was in, I think he made great plays and decisions. He completed passes when they blitzed and threw the ball away when nothing was there. Today either Brooks had to complete passes or there was NOTHING there. McCarthy\'s play calling absolutely sucked and put the offense in bad situations, time after time. Brooks bailed the offense out so many times after McCarthy kept running Deuce up the middlle for NO gain. Honestly, what else could Brooks have done? He completed 60% of his passes on one of the best defenses in the league. He also threw some great deep passes that were dropped. His stats were fantasitic but it goes way beyond stats today. He made great reads, good decisions, etc, etc.......... [Edited on 21/12/2003 by BillyC]
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12-21-2003, 05:07 PM	#23
whowatches 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 575	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Brooks played well enough for us to win the game. The offensive line could\'ve played better, and Deuce could\'ve held on to the ball. Brooks was fine today. This game sucks bad enough as it is. Let\'s please not turn this into an Aaron Brooks thread. This week is gonna be hard enough as it is,
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12-21-2003, 05:11 PM	#24
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Like I said the Brooks stuff is about semantics not worth commenting on any more. McCarthy\'s play call absolutely sucked and put the offense in bad situations, This I think is an issue to the heart of the problem today. We were having no success with the run and it was being called to often in obvious situations. I truly believe the game plan was the single biggest flaws on the field today next to the run defense.
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12-21-2003, 05:14 PM	#25
blake6900 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 182	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Hey, BillyC...Why do you think McCarthy\'s playcalling is so bad? Not just this one game but more often than not? Could it be that the Saints\' playbook has had to be slimmed down to just a few plays so as to not complicate things for Brooks? Let\'s face it...this offense runs the same plays over and over. And AB runs into all sorts of trouble trying to call audibles. Not to mention reading defenses, blah, blah, blah. When McCarthy was at Green Bay, that offense was never accused of simplicity so why is it that way here? Think about it...
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12-21-2003, 05:15 PM	#26
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Ok, let me think about it. Should I discuss Aaron Brooks with a known Brooks basher that has never said anything positive about the guy? NO!!
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BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... You\'re a loser! Who cares. Where\'s my ignore Gator button. Oh here it is --
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12-21-2003, 05:29 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Deuce McAllister-2nd year starter, Saints 16-15 with him starting. WOW, I\'m blown away! Most of you are all over his nutz worshipping this guy when it could be shown by the same criteria Brooks bashers use that this guy has cost us a playoff spot. Yea, he\'s good. But most of you guys swear he\'s the greatest Saint EVER after only two good years. There are no winners on this team YET . EVERY PLAYER ON THIS TEAM IS A LOSER. If you insist on bashing Aaron Brooks then I feel you must also look at the ENTIRE team, because I think all 53 guys (plus all the injury fill-ins) had a hand in every loss. Fred Taylor owned Deuce McAllister today.

12-21-2003, 05:32 PM	#29
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... Danno...that comment is completely ridiculous. Deuce, running behind a lackluster o-line, was manhandled by a top 2 rushing defense. Taylor blasted apart a completely useless rush defense that my Grandma in her wheelchair could have got 100 yds on. Compare apples to apples. I know everyone is upset right now but that is ridiculous.

12-21-2003, 05:34 PM	#30
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Quite possibly the greatest play in Saints history.... I\'m not trying to debate you. There are other members that read this board and other members that have replied to this tread. Don\'t flatter yourself Billy. I don\'t care what you think about my season report. But I know what burns you up is the fact more guys will agree with me than they will with you. Here\'s my little secret. <wispering> \"common sense\" Besides anyone see this as a BASH ON BROOKS? I don\'t. But when you are critical of a man\'s lover, he tends to get sensitive. Maybe you should try talking about football instead of members. I wouldn\'t want you to get banned again Gator. Now you are officially ignored!!
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