Should Saints be looking for WRs?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 08-14-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

And Just Say NO To T.O.

Brilliant!

I think experienced depth at the position would be a good thing and in the coming weeks I bet some interesting names will become available as the mandatory roster cuts happen. Likely someone good will become a cap casualty. But I don't think there is an "elite" reciver I'd look at (so no TO or Moss) that is going to be available before the start of the season.

Danno · 08-14-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Probably the one thing we disagree on...

We lack a "true" #1.

Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees?

Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot?

Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson???

I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without.

Just a thought...

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

saintsfan1976 · 08-14-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

Devil's advocate here...

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

I didn't say Moore was anything moore (get it?) than a "slot receiver" - that's the point.

Meachem. #2. That's my point.

Henderson was always a #3, #4, #5 WR... Payton needed his speed to stretch defenses and that's the major reason he remained on the team. Remember that Meachem was injured when he was drafted.

I don't want to sound like I'm not a fan of our WR crew. I really believe that Billings and Morgan and Arrington and Lorenzen and whoever else are "good enough" receivers to have a shot at making the team B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR.

Danno · 08-14-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Devil's advocate here...

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

C'mon SF1976, are you serious?

SmashMouth · 08-14-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

Danno · 08-14-2011, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

It doesn't hurt. We only saw a few snaps of these guys, Payton see's them day in and day out.

I can only pull for them.

FinSaint · 08-14-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

Does that mean that Brady would be a backup at most if it weren't for Bill's great schemes?

foreverfan · 08-14-2011, 09:19 PM

If TO and or Moss could ruin anybody's career, it won't be Brees.

saintsfan1976 · 08-14-2011, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

C'mon SF1976, are you serious?

Yes, I'm serious. Would Colston be the player he is now in the NFL w/o Brees?

All of our other WR's have over performed...compared to their respective careers prior to joining the Saints.

FinSaint · 08-14-2011, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Yes, I'm serious. Would Colston be the player he is now in the NFL w/o Brees?

All of our other WR's have over performed...compared to their respective careers prior to joining the Saints.

From Colston's roster bio:

He’s only the sixth NFL player to reach 1,000 receiving yards in four of his first five seasons.

That can't be all just Brees, there has to be talent there also. If anything, being in the Saints has made Colston invisible to the national media, which is why he is rarely mentioned in any discussion about top WRs in the NFL.

08-14-2011, 08:12 PM	#11
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by QBREES9 And Just Say NO To T.O. Brilliant! I think experienced depth at the position would be a good thing and in the coming weeks I bet some interesting names will become available as the mandatory roster cuts happen. Likely someone good will become a cap casualty. But I don't think there is an "elite" reciver I'd look at (so no TO or Moss) that is going to be available before the start of the season.
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08-14-2011, 08:48 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Probably the one thing we disagree on... We lack a "true" #1. Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees? Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot? Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson??? I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without. Just a thought... I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. FinSaint likes this.

08-14-2011, 09:04 PM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. Devil's advocate here... So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? I didn't say Moore was anything moore (get it?) than a "slot receiver" - that's the point. Meachem. #2. That's my point. Henderson was always a #3, #4, #5 WR... Payton needed his speed to stretch defenses and that's the major reason he remained on the team. Remember that Meachem was injured when he was drafted. I don't want to sound like I'm not a fan of our WR crew. I really believe that Billings and Morgan and Arrington and Lorenzen and whoever else are "good enough" receivers to have a shot at making the team B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR.

08-14-2011, 09:07 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Devil's advocate here... So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? C'mon SF1976, are you serious?

08-14-2011, 09:07 PM	#15
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by Danno I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

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08-14-2011, 09:09 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by SmashMouth Does that mean Morgan makes the team? It doesn't hurt. We only saw a few snaps of these guys, Payton see's them day in and day out. I can only pull for them.

08-14-2011, 09:15 PM	#17
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? Does that mean that Brady would be a backup at most if it weren't for Bill's great schemes?

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	If TO and or Moss could ruin anybody's career, it won't be Brees.

08-14-2011, 09:27 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno C'mon SF1976, are you serious? Yes, I'm serious. Would Colston be the player he is now in the NFL w/o Brees? All of our other WR's have over performed...compared to their respective careers prior to joining the Saints.

08-14-2011, 09:32 PM	#20
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Yes, I'm serious. Would Colston be the player he is now in the NFL w/o Brees? All of our other WR's have over performed...compared to their respective careers prior to joining the Saints. From Colston's roster bio: He’s only the sixth NFL player to reach 1,000 receiving yards in four of his first five seasons. That can't be all just Brees, there has to be talent there also. If anything, being in the Saints has made Colston invisible to the national media, which is why he is rarely mentioned in any discussion about top WRs in the NFL.