Should Saints be looking for WRs?

Danno · 08-14-2011, 07:24 PM

You never say never, but if I had to list the positions we need more help at, WR would be almost dead last.

saintsfan1976 · 08-14-2011, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You never say never, but if I had to list the positions we need more help at, WR would be almost dead last.

Probably the one thing we disagree on...

We lack a "true" #1.

Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees?

Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot?

Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson???

I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without.

Just a thought...

Danno · 08-14-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Probably the one thing we disagree on...

We lack a "true" #1.

Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees?

Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot?

Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson???

I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without.

Just a thought...

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

saintsfan1976 · 08-14-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

Devil's advocate here...

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

I didn't say Moore was anything moore (get it?) than a "slot receiver" - that's the point.

Meachem. #2. That's my point.

Henderson was always a #3, #4, #5 WR... Payton needed his speed to stretch defenses and that's the major reason he remained on the team. Remember that Meachem was injured when he was drafted.

I don't want to sound like I'm not a fan of our WR crew. I really believe that Billings and Morgan and Arrington and Lorenzen and whoever else are "good enough" receivers to have a shot at making the team B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR.

Danno · 08-14-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Devil's advocate here...

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

C'mon SF1976, are you serious?

FinSaint · 08-14-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

Does that mean that Brady would be a backup at most if it weren't for Bill's great schemes?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 08-14-2011, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR.

How does this equate out of curiosity? Are you saying Brees would take fewer hits if he had a receiver who was open more often than the current group is because he would get rid of the ball more quickly?

Memnoch_TP · 08-15-2011, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Devil's advocate here...

So that's why Colston was drafted so high??

That is a great argument, if you are Canton Legend. What he does on the field is irrelevant, because he was drafted in the 7th round and that limits his ability. Being drafted late makes him just a little slower, and a little dumber, and makes it harder for him to catch a ball.

Poor PT23, being undrafted he obviously can't play at all. Just ignore that Super Bowl ring of his, he is stuck on a list with a bunch of other undrafted nobodies who suck just because they were undrafted.

I mean, how did those idiots on the Hall of Fame committee elect Night Train Lane or Warren Moon? Their play was irrelevant, they weren't even drafted so they obviously bite. Night Train's record for INTs by a rookie has only stood for almost 60 years... Get back to me when it stands for 160, you undrafted loser! Kurt Warner? Trash. John Randall? Garbage. Antonio Gates? Rubbish. Jeff Saturday? WORST CENTER EVER! Don't even get me started on Wes Welker. Shoddy wanna-be. The fact that he has a record for most catches in a Super Bowl is a disgrace to every 1st round WR like Meachem out there! Those records should belong to people who are drafted high, not people who go out there and actually perform on the field.

What is the NFL coming to?

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Remember that Colston's first training camp in New Orleans was almost his last.

Another brilliant point. Remember 6 years ago, when he was a rookie coming from a small school, and almost didn't (but did) make the team. Right before he pulled in 70 receptions for 1,038 yards and 8 TDs? I mean, what take into consideration years of consistently excellent play? He had a rough camp 6 years ago! The guys sucks!

SmashMouth · 08-14-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed.

Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's.

Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit.

Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR.

We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams.

Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

Danno · 08-14-2011, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

It doesn't hurt. We only saw a few snaps of these guys, Payton see's them day in and day out.

I can only pull for them.

08-14-2011, 09:15 PM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? Does that mean that Brady would be a backup at most if it weren't for Bill's great schemes?

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SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR. How does this equate out of curiosity? Are you saying Brees would take fewer hits if he had a receiver who was open more often than the current group is because he would get rid of the ball more quickly? strato likes this.
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08-15-2011, 02:35 AM	#8
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Devil's advocate here... So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? That is a great argument, if you are Canton Legend. What he does on the field is irrelevant, because he was drafted in the 7th round and that limits his ability. Being drafted late makes him just a little slower, and a little dumber, and makes it harder for him to catch a ball. Poor PT23, being undrafted he obviously can't play at all. Just ignore that Super Bowl ring of his, he is stuck on a list with a bunch of other undrafted nobodies who suck just because they were undrafted. I mean, how did those idiots on the Hall of Fame committee elect Night Train Lane or Warren Moon? Their play was irrelevant, they weren't even drafted so they obviously bite. Night Train's record for INTs by a rookie has only stood for almost 60 years... Get back to me when it stands for 160, you undrafted loser! Kurt Warner? Trash. John Randall? Garbage. Antonio Gates? Rubbish. Jeff Saturday? WORST CENTER EVER! Don't even get me started on Wes Welker. Shoddy wanna-be. The fact that he has a record for most catches in a Super Bowl is a disgrace to every 1st round WR like Meachem out there! Those records should belong to people who are drafted high, not people who go out there and actually perform on the field. What is the NFL coming to? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Remember that Colston's first training camp in New Orleans was almost his last. Another brilliant point. Remember 6 years ago, when he was a rookie coming from a small school, and almost didn't (but did) make the team. Right before he pulled in 70 receptions for 1,038 yards and 8 TDs? I mean, what take into consideration years of consistently excellent play? He had a rough camp 6 years ago! The guys sucks!
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08-14-2011, 09:07 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,801 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by Danno I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. Does that mean Morgan makes the team?

08-14-2011, 09:09 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by SmashMouth Does that mean Morgan makes the team? It doesn't hurt. We only saw a few snaps of these guys, Payton see's them day in and day out. I can only pull for them.

08-14-2011, 07:24 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	You never say never, but if I had to list the positions we need more help at, WR would be almost dead last.

08-14-2011, 08:04 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno You never say never, but if I had to list the positions we need more help at, WR would be almost dead last. Probably the one thing we disagree on... We lack a "true" #1. Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees? Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot? Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson??? I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without. Just a thought...

08-14-2011, 08:48 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Probably the one thing we disagree on... We lack a "true" #1. Before you answer "Colston" - where would he be without Brees? Moore is good. But can he survive outside the slot? Meachem is good. But is he anything more than a younger Devery Henderson??? I'm beginning to think that our WR's succeeded more from the presence of Reggie Bush than without. Just a thought... I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. FinSaint likes this.

08-14-2011, 09:04 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno I think Colston would still be an excellent #1 on most teams. His body control and block-out ability is exceptional. He doesn't need Brees to succeed. Moore is cat quick. Brees isn't the only NFL QB who can hit slot WR's. Meachem is an excellent #2 WR and from all camp reports has improved his game quite a bit. Henderson is better than a lot of teams #3 or #4 WR. We also have a lot of young up and comers on the team too. You need your 5th and 6th WR's to play special teams. Devil's advocate here... So that's why Colston was drafted so high?? I didn't say Moore was anything moore (get it?) than a "slot receiver" - that's the point. Meachem. #2. That's my point. Henderson was always a #3, #4, #5 WR... Payton needed his speed to stretch defenses and that's the major reason he remained on the team. Remember that Meachem was injured when he was drafted. I don't want to sound like I'm not a fan of our WR crew. I really believe that Billings and Morgan and Arrington and Lorenzen and whoever else are "good enough" receivers to have a shot at making the team B U T Brees's longevity is dramatically extended with a "true" #1 WR.