Stinchcomb Released

08-16-2011, 10:07 AM

Late to the party, but holy crap! I don't understand this, has he really fallen off that much?

Maverick2299 · 08-16-2011, 10:11 AM

lately yes, he is getting spun around like a top.

TheDeuce · 08-16-2011, 10:18 AM

I know he isn't up to the level that he was a few years ago when he went to the Pro Bowl, but do we really think Zach Strief is the answer? Dude is slow on the edge... I'm worried about protecting Drew. The injury has obviously made Stinch's decline occur more rapidly, probably the right move, but dang, he's been a mainstay on some great teams. Seems like a classy guy too.

Maverick2299 · 08-16-2011, 10:20 AM

It kinda sounds like Brown may take the job..but its going to be Strief and Brown to battle for the start.

jnormand · 08-16-2011, 10:25 AM

I hope Strief can step it up. I don't exactly feel comfortable with Bushrod on the other side either.

Seer1 · 08-16-2011, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Very surprised by this move! Originally when they drafted him I wasn't happy, but then he kind of grew on me. I always thought that he was better at run blocking than pass protection, but clearly he wasn't good at either one in the SF game.

I hope he finds a new home somewhere and gets the opportunity for a comeback. I like the move from the team standpoint - since there has to be a plan in place for the O-Line - but naturally it's sad to see one more SB winner go.

Will this chance if he sign a contract with another team? Does anyone know what his cap hit was/is?

This is from the ESPN South Blog "Stinchcomb’s $2.25 million base salary for this year was guaranteed, so the Saints are on the hook for that. Throw in this year’s share of prorated bonuses ($2.425 million) and the Saints are taking a $4.675 million cap hit this year. It could even be a little more. Stinchcomb also was scheduled for a $100,000 workout bonus this offseason. Clayton and I couldn’t come up with a decisive answer on if workout bonus will still count because offseason conditioning wasn’t allowed in the lockout. If they do, tack on another $100,000. That would bring the hit to $4.775 million, which was exactly what Stinchcomb’s cap figure would have been if he stayed with the Saints this season. "

FinSaint · 08-16-2011, 10:35 AM

Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season?

I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that.

I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

Seer1 · 08-16-2011, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season?

I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that.

I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though.

xan · 08-16-2011, 10:53 AM

Man, if I were guaranteed $2.25 mil and I didn't have to mud wrassell on a bum knee, take grief in the papers and could rehab for a year, come back and still have a career, I certainly would have the attitude Stinch has.

Holy hell, why can't I get a deal like that?

jnormand · 08-16-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

This is from the ESPN South Blog "Stinchcomb’s $2.25 million base salary for this year was guaranteed, so the Saints are on the hook for that. Throw in this year’s share of prorated bonuses ($2.425 million) and the Saints are taking a $4.675 million cap hit this year. It could even be a little more. Stinchcomb also was scheduled for a $100,000 workout bonus this offseason. Clayton and I couldn’t come up with a decisive answer on if workout bonus will still count because offseason conditioning wasn’t allowed in the lockout. If they do, tack on another $100,000. That would bring the hit to $4.775 million, which was exactly what Stinchcomb’s cap figure would have been if he stayed with the Saints this season. "

If all that is true why the hell did we release him? I mean he's getting paid, he could be a backup. I'm starting to think this was a class move by the FO doing Stinch a favor.

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08-16-2011, 10:18 AM	#53
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	I know he isn't up to the level that he was a few years ago when he went to the Pro Bowl, but do we really think Zach Strief is the answer? Dude is slow on the edge... I'm worried about protecting Drew. The injury has obviously made Stinch's decline occur more rapidly, probably the right move, but dang, he's been a mainstay on some great teams. Seems like a classy guy too.
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08-16-2011, 10:26 AM	#56
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint Very surprised by this move! Originally when they drafted him I wasn't happy, but then he kind of grew on me. I always thought that he was better at run blocking than pass protection, but clearly he wasn't good at either one in the SF game. I hope he finds a new home somewhere and gets the opportunity for a comeback. I like the move from the team standpoint - since there has to be a plan in place for the O-Line - but naturally it's sad to see one more SB winner go. Will this chance if he sign a contract with another team? Does anyone know what his cap hit was/is? This is from the ESPN South Blog "Stinchcomb’s $2.25 million base salary for this year was guaranteed, so the Saints are on the hook for that. Throw in this year’s share of prorated bonuses ($2.425 million) and the Saints are taking a $4.675 million cap hit this year. It could even be a little more. Stinchcomb also was scheduled for a $100,000 workout bonus this offseason. Clayton and I couldn’t come up with a decisive answer on if workout bonus will still count because offseason conditioning wasn’t allowed in the lockout. If they do, tack on another $100,000. That would bring the hit to $4.775 million, which was exactly what Stinchcomb’s cap figure would have been if he stayed with the Saints this season. "

08-16-2011, 10:51 AM	#58
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season? I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that. I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already? I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though.

08-16-2011, 11:02 AM	#60
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Originally Posted by Seer1 This is from the ESPN South Blog "Stinchcomb’s $2.25 million base salary for this year was guaranteed, so the Saints are on the hook for that. Throw in this year’s share of prorated bonuses ($2.425 million) and the Saints are taking a $4.675 million cap hit this year. It could even be a little more. Stinchcomb also was scheduled for a $100,000 workout bonus this offseason. Clayton and I couldn’t come up with a decisive answer on if workout bonus will still count because offseason conditioning wasn’t allowed in the lockout. If they do, tack on another $100,000. That would bring the hit to $4.775 million, which was exactly what Stinchcomb’s cap figure would have been if he stayed with the Saints this season. " If all that is true why the hell did we release him? I mean he's getting paid, he could be a backup. I'm starting to think this was a class move by the FO doing Stinch a favor.

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08-16-2011, 10:11 AM	#52
Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	lately yes, he is getting spun around like a top.

08-16-2011, 10:20 AM	#54
Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	It kinda sounds like Brown may take the job..but its going to be Strief and Brown to battle for the start.

08-16-2011, 10:25 AM	#55
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	I hope Strief can step it up. I don't exactly feel comfortable with Bushrod on the other side either.

08-16-2011, 10:35 AM	#57
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season? I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that. I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

08-16-2011, 10:53 AM	#59
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Man, if I were guaranteed $2.25 mil and I didn't have to mud wrassell on a bum knee, take grief in the papers and could rehab for a year, come back and still have a career, I certainly would have the attitude Stinch has. Holy hell, why can't I get a deal like that?