Harper on the decline?

SmashMouth · 09-10-2011, 11:24 AM

I recall a few plays during the GB game that reminded me of the Seattle game. I sure hope it's not a trend, but it's starting to look like Harper's better days are behind him. The jury is still out of course. Might it be time to consider Sharper or another safety before there are other injuries on other teams?

strato · 09-10-2011, 11:25 AM

Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it

dizzle88 · 09-10-2011, 11:43 AM

I remember him covering Dallas Clark in the super bowl doing okay

I remember him covering Visante Shiancoe in the opening game of 2010 and shutting him down, after that point hes gone downhill.

i like that he can hit and he is a great blitzer but the whole secondary was a glaring weakness for us, it needs to be fixed. Robinson looked like an absolute goat out there, rodgers just couldnt wait to throw to his side for big play after big play.

Marlboro Man · 09-11-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it

Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really.

strato · 09-12-2011, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really.

The man speaks the gospel...lol

foreverfan · 09-12-2011, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by strato

The man speaks the gospel...lol

Oh no you don't... Marlboro Man's comments won't bail you out.

crawgator · 09-10-2011, 11:45 AM

I think Harper drives to these games in A clown Car. The kind you open the door and 30 clowns come running out, going in circles not knowing where they are going... Cause this guy plays like that on the field... If every play was a run play then this guy would be a pro bowler every year.. But dam man he can't cover in pass defense..

foreverfan · 09-10-2011, 11:46 AM

Sharper or Harper... that is the question?

MorningWood · 09-10-2011, 11:52 AM

He actually had good coverage on some of those plays he got "beat" on. Rodgers just threw the ball to the perfect spot.

Danno · 09-10-2011, 11:54 AM

Papz found a great stat once that showed Harper was one of the best DB's in the league at allowing the least amount of yards to TE's.

I think too many people think SS's should be able to cover as well as CB's.

"You have a two year pro bowl player that is back that is young that is continuing to improve, continuing to get better. A lot was said about his last game and its unfortunate you guys don't know much about ball.

All you guys that criticized him for two plays in that last game...you're dead wrong. Because he played pretty well except for two plays. He played poorly on two plays but I could say that about 99% of them out there.

OK? I'm really happy that Roman Harper is back . WE NEED HIM HERE. I'll be a better coach and we will be a better team because Roman Harper is back here."-Gregg Williams

09-10-2011, 11:24 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Harper on the decline? I recall a few plays during the GB game that reminded me of the Seattle game. I sure hope it's not a trend, but it's starting to look like Harper's better days are behind him. The jury is still out of course. Might it be time to consider Sharper or another safety before there are other injuries on other teams?

09-10-2011, 11:25 AM	#2
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it jeanpierre, crawgator and pherein like this.
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09-11-2011, 11:08 PM	#4
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Originally Posted by strato Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really. strato likes this.

09-12-2011, 11:43 AM	#5
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really. The man speaks the gospel...lol

09-12-2011, 08:14 PM	#6
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by strato The man speaks the gospel...lol Oh no you don't... Marlboro Man's comments won't bail you out.

09-10-2011, 11:43 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	I remember him covering Dallas Clark in the super bowl doing okay I remember him covering Visante Shiancoe in the opening game of 2010 and shutting him down, after that point hes gone downhill. i like that he can hit and he is a great blitzer but the whole secondary was a glaring weakness for us, it needs to be fixed. Robinson looked like an absolute goat out there, rodgers just couldnt wait to throw to his side for big play after big play.

09-10-2011, 11:45 AM	#7
crawgator 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ridgecrest, Ca Posts: 187 Blog Entries: 1	I think Harper drives to these games in A clown Car. The kind you open the door and 30 clowns come running out, going in circles not knowing where they are going... Cause this guy plays like that on the field... If every play was a run play then this guy would be a pro bowler every year.. But dam man he can't cover in pass defense.. jeanpierre likes this.

09-10-2011, 11:46 AM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Sharper or Harper... that is the question?

09-10-2011, 11:52 AM	#9
MorningWood 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 180	He actually had good coverage on some of those plays he got "beat" on. Rodgers just threw the ball to the perfect spot. BringTheWood and FinSaint like this.
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09-10-2011, 11:54 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Papz found a great stat once that showed Harper was one of the best DB's in the league at allowing the least amount of yards to TE's. I think too many people think SS's should be able to cover as well as CB's. "You have a two year pro bowl player that is back that is young that is continuing to improve, continuing to get better. A lot was said about his last game and its unfortunate you guys don't know much about ball. All you guys that criticized him for two plays in that last game...you're dead wrong. Because he played pretty well except for two plays. He played poorly on two plays but I could say that about 99% of them out there. OK? I'm really happy that Roman Harper is back . WE NEED HIM HERE. I'll be a better coach and we will be a better team because Roman Harper is back here."-Gregg Williams

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