Comparisons

saintz08 · 01-27-2004, 10:15 AM

5. QB Brooks (NO) Groomed For Bigger Leadership Role

Clipped from Nick Wishart article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

The club is doing everything it can to help quarterback Aaron Brooks
further develop his leadership skills. Last week, Brooks and a few
of his coaches and teammates attended a two-day leadership seminar
at the team\'s facility. Brooks has also been drilled on the side
with reminders placed in his locker.

\"Win each sprint drill.\"

\"Always be on time.\"

\"Be the first one to film study and the last one to leave.\"

Next up for Brooks will be a few days being mentored by Hall of
Famer Joe Montana in training camp.

But when you hear Brooks talk it sounds like he thinks he\'s already
there.

\"I know who I am and what I\'ve got to offer,\" Brooks said. \"People
in this locker room, the team, the coaches, they know what\'s up.

\"They know it\'s my team, and it\'s going to be like that as long as
I\'m here. I\'ve always been a leader in my own way.\"

http://www.footballguys.com/03update39.htm

Sems like Brooks leadership is all in his own mind ...

saintfan · 01-27-2004, 10:48 AM

As I have said many many many times before, people (in general) on this particular board that don\'t like Brooks don\'t generally dislike him because of his performance. Ya\'ll know who you are. All this bickering about his numbers here or his number there is just their attempt to prove an opinion. The Saints, quite simply, score enough to win. They have the last two years, even with the drop in performance last year. Brooks\' number go up...point total goes down. STILL, the Saints were scoring enough to win in the NFL. The problem is elsewhere. This debate continues, not because of any particular love for Brooks by anyone here, but because of the persistance of certain people who think this team needs a new QB. Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win?

saintz08 · 01-27-2004, 11:00 AM

Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win?

Win 8 games or the play offs ???

The point is simple , a team has to decide the power scheme . Do the Saints have an offensive philosophy or a defensive philosophy ???

saintfan · 01-27-2004, 11:12 AM

08, your insistance to hold Aaron Brooks responsible for everything is laughable.

You\'re as bad as Whodat. Can you really tell me that Brooks numbers, regardless of whether or not your feelings are hurt over Jake Delhomme playing elsewhere, aren\'t good enough to win? No, you can\'t. You never have been able to because his numbers are good enough, and even better than they\'d need to be.

The simple FACT is that with AB as the QB the Saints score enough to win. You can continue to focus on the wrong position if it helps you sleep at night, but you obviously can\'t see the forest for the trees.

saintz08 · 01-27-2004, 11:24 AM

Do the Saints have an offensive philosophy or a defensive philosophy ???

It is really a simple question ???

Can you answer it without going into some tirade about an agenda or my sleep patterns ???

saintfan · 01-27-2004, 11:30 AM

You didn\'t answer the question, you asked a question. I think you and whodat are the same person.

Here\'s the question again 08...only a few grades lower...the added part at the end of the original question is there so that maybe we can get a specific answer.

Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win (it all)?

saintz08 · 01-27-2004, 11:40 AM

Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win (it all)?

So let me get this straight .

( it all ) Means the Super Bowl ???

Are we basing this on the current Defense ???

Are we going with the majority of cap spending on the offensive side of the Ball ??

saintfan · 01-27-2004, 11:46 AM

Is the question not presented in a simple enough form?

1. Look at Brooks number\'s from the previous season.

2. From those numbers, see if you can determine whether or not a team who\'s QB had those numbers (or worse numbers) could win the Superbowl.

I really don\'t know if I can be any more straight forward than that.

saintz08 · 01-27-2004, 12:02 PM

I really don\'t know if I can be any more straight forward than that.

Sure you can .

You can tell me whether you want the correlation to an offensive or a defensive schemed team .

To make it simpler for you :

A. Bucs - Defensive schemed team
B. Rams - Offensive schemed team

Pick one ........ Pretty simple....A or B

saintfan · 01-27-2004, 12:08 PM

Please forgive me for backing you into a corner 08. My only intention was to get you to answer a simple question. You can\'t. It\'s ok.

01-27-2004, 10:15 AM	#41
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Comparisons 5. QB Brooks (NO) Groomed For Bigger Leadership Role Clipped from Nick Wishart article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: The club is doing everything it can to help quarterback Aaron Brooks further develop his leadership skills. Last week, Brooks and a few of his coaches and teammates attended a two-day leadership seminar at the team\'s facility. Brooks has also been drilled on the side with reminders placed in his locker. \"Win each sprint drill.\" \"Always be on time.\" \"Be the first one to film study and the last one to leave.\" Next up for Brooks will be a few days being mentored by Hall of Famer Joe Montana in training camp. But when you hear Brooks talk it sounds like he thinks he\'s already there. \"I know who I am and what I\'ve got to offer,\" Brooks said. \"People in this locker room, the team, the coaches, they know what\'s up. \"They know it\'s my team, and it\'s going to be like that as long as I\'m here. I\'ve always been a leader in my own way.\" http://www.footballguys.com/03update39.htm Sems like Brooks leadership is all in his own mind ...
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

01-27-2004, 10:48 AM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Comparisons As I have said many many many times before, people (in general) on this particular board that don\'t like Brooks don\'t generally dislike him because of his performance. Ya\'ll know who you are. All this bickering about his numbers here or his number there is just their attempt to prove an opinion. The Saints, quite simply, score enough to win. They have the last two years, even with the drop in performance last year. Brooks\' number go up...point total goes down. STILL, the Saints were scoring enough to win in the NFL. The problem is elsewhere. This debate continues, not because of any particular love for Brooks by anyone here, but because of the persistance of certain people who think this team needs a new QB. Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win?
	C'mon Man...

01-27-2004, 11:00 AM	#43
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Comparisons Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win? Win 8 games or the play offs ??? The point is simple , a team has to decide the power scheme . Do the Saints have an offensive philosophy or a defensive philosophy ???
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020

01-27-2004, 11:12 AM	#44
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Comparisons 08, your insistance to hold Aaron Brooks responsible for everything is laughable. You\'re as bad as Whodat. Can you really tell me that Brooks numbers, regardless of whether or not your feelings are hurt over Jake Delhomme playing elsewhere, aren\'t good enough to win? No, you can\'t. You never have been able to because his numbers are good enough, and even better than they\'d need to be. The simple FACT is that with AB as the QB the Saints score enough to win. You can continue to focus on the wrong position if it helps you sleep at night, but you obviously can\'t see the forest for the trees.
	C'mon Man...

01-27-2004, 11:24 AM	#45
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Comparisons Do the Saints have an offensive philosophy or a defensive philosophy ??? It is really a simple question ??? Can you answer it without going into some tirade about an agenda or my sleep patterns ???
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01-27-2004, 11:30 AM	#46
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Comparisons You didn\'t answer the question, you asked a question. I think you and whodat are the same person. Here\'s the question again 08...only a few grades lower...the added part at the end of the original question is there so that maybe we can get a specific answer. Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win (it all)?

01-27-2004, 11:40 AM	#47
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Comparisons Can anyone tell me that Brooks numbers aren\'t good enough to win (it all)? So let me get this straight . ( it all ) Means the Super Bowl ??? Are we basing this on the current Defense ??? Are we going with the majority of cap spending on the offensive side of the Ball ??
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020

01-27-2004, 11:46 AM	#48
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Comparisons Is the question not presented in a simple enough form? 1. Look at Brooks number\'s from the previous season. 2. From those numbers, see if you can determine whether or not a team who\'s QB had those numbers (or worse numbers) could win the Superbowl. I really don\'t know if I can be any more straight forward than that.

01-27-2004, 12:02 PM	#49
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Comparisons I really don\'t know if I can be any more straight forward than that. Sure you can . You can tell me whether you want the correlation to an offensive or a defensive schemed team . To make it simpler for you : A. Bucs - Defensive schemed team B. Rams - Offensive schemed team Pick one ........ Pretty simple....A or B
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01-27-2004, 12:08 PM	#50
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Comparisons Please forgive me for backing you into a corner 08. My only intention was to get you to answer a simple question. You can\'t. It\'s ok.