Comparisons

biloxi-indian · 01-23-2004, 02:14 PM

Although new to this board, I have read with interest over the past year. What I fail to understand is the Arron vs Jake play. We have a guy, Todd Bouman, that by all accounts should have at least a shot at the QB job. Haslett has his "pets" and with the $$$ they gave Arron, it is no wonder they fail to see his faults. Faults=inablity to hold onto the ball and stupid defensive reads. Yes, before the blast from statistics or ratings, proof of the pudding is on the field leadership...which he has some, but not enough.

Back to lurking and awaiting the statistical points of view.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome"!

[Edited on 23/1/2004 by biloxi-indian]

iceshack149 · 01-23-2004, 02:28 PM

Good post biloxi. You make a valid point. You never know, Bouman may be the next Kerry Collins, Mark Bulger, or Jake Delhomme. I too am eager to see what this guy can do. He did very well for the Vikings as a sub and Haslett wanted him as soon as he became the coach for the Saints. I also heard good things about him in minicamp last year. Of course he\'ll get \"a shot at the qb position\" but it would take ALOT of convincing before Haslett would put AB on the bench.

WhoDat · 01-23-2004, 02:32 PM

I\'d like to see Bouman go with the first team in the preseason myself. He was the guy Haslett wanted BEFORE Brooks or Blake. I want to see what that guy can do.

BillyC · 01-23-2004, 02:34 PM

Look, why don\'t we just go with any second stringer out there? What\'s the difference. They are all unproven.

BillyC · 01-23-2004, 02:47 PM

There\'s a time and place for UNPROVEN QB\'s to prove themselves and that\'s not when your current QB is playing well. Why don\'t the Colts yank Manning and see if his back up can do a little better?

biloxi-indian · 01-23-2004, 02:49 PM

From one viewpoint, once Brooks got his contract, his smiles and grins just don\'t cut it. It is performance in terms of wins and losses. I personally have nothing against Brooks, but his performance lacks consistency.

Why was Bouman brought in? To be the back-up. Back-ups play when the starter gets hurt, is not performing...ok, let\'s give the guy a chance or find another backup that can. Personally, from what I saw at games, I think Bouman has a rocket arm and given 1/2 the chance with the first team, would excel. What do we have to lose? Brooks? Maybe not that bad!

Just one point of view.

Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome!

BillyC · 01-23-2004, 02:51 PM

From one viewpoint, once Brooks got his contract, his smiles and grins just don\'t cut it. It is performance in terms of wins and losses. I personally have nothing against Brooks, but his performance lacks consistency.

Why was Bouman brought in? To be the back-up. Back-ups play when the starter gets hurt, is not performing...ok, let\'s give the guy a chance or find another backup that can. Personally, from what I saw at games, I think Bouman has a rocket arm and given 1/2 the chance with the first team, would excel. What do we have to lose? Brooks? Maybe not that bad!

Just one point of view.

Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome!

For one, it makes no sense!! From what I saw Bouman couldn\'t hit the side of a barn. You\'re going to have to give me a better reason than \"That\'s what I think\" in order for me to buy what you are selling.

[Edited on 23/1/2004 by BillyC]

BillyC · 01-23-2004, 02:52 PM

Oh BiloxiIndian --

I\'m from Biloxi too. Well, actually Long Beach, Ms. Glad to have you on board.

biloxi-indian · 01-23-2004, 02:56 PM

Billy C, good point when your QB is playing well. What was Brooks record this year? How many fumbles does Brooks have to loose to distinguish himself from the pack of GOOD QB\'s.

As far as your Peyton comment, he is a Pro-Bowl QB this year. What was his W/L? Point being, he got them to the Promise Land, but could not open the Red Sea!

Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome.

biloxi-indian · 01-23-2004, 03:01 PM

Billy C, good to see another Mississippian aboard.

As for hitting the side of a barn, Brooks has a problem hitting the same barn. How many passes did we see SAIL over the heads of receivers during the year? Many!

I am not trying to sell anything. However, I am willing to give Bouman a chance as opposed to comparing Arron to Jake whom we do not have any longer. BTW; just think about all the qualities we did not like about Jake as a QB and look at him NOW.

I look forward to contiuning the discussion, without the sales approach. LOLOLOL

\"Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome\"!

01-23-2004, 02:14 PM	#1
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Comparisons Although new to this board, I have read with interest over the past year. What I fail to understand is the Arron vs Jake play. We have a guy, Todd Bouman, that by all accounts should have at least a shot at the QB job. Haslett has his "pets" and with the $$$ they gave Arron, it is no wonder they fail to see his faults. Faults=inablity to hold onto the ball and stupid defensive reads. Yes, before the blast from statistics or ratings, proof of the pudding is on the field leadership...which he has some, but not enough. Back to lurking and awaiting the statistical points of view. "Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome"! [Edited on 23/1/2004 by biloxi-indian]

01-23-2004, 02:28 PM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Comparisons Good post biloxi. You make a valid point. You never know, Bouman may be the next Kerry Collins, Mark Bulger, or Jake Delhomme. I too am eager to see what this guy can do. He did very well for the Vikings as a sub and Haslett wanted him as soon as he became the coach for the Saints. I also heard good things about him in minicamp last year. Of course he\'ll get \"a shot at the qb position\" but it would take ALOT of convincing before Haslett would put AB on the bench.

01-23-2004, 02:32 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Comparisons I\'d like to see Bouman go with the first team in the preseason myself. He was the guy Haslett wanted BEFORE Brooks or Blake. I want to see what that guy can do.
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01-23-2004, 02:34 PM	#4
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons Look, why don\'t we just go with any second stringer out there? What\'s the difference. They are all unproven.
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01-23-2004, 02:47 PM	#5
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons There\'s a time and place for UNPROVEN QB\'s to prove themselves and that\'s not when your current QB is playing well. Why don\'t the Colts yank Manning and see if his back up can do a little better?
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01-23-2004, 02:49 PM	#6
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Comparisons From one viewpoint, once Brooks got his contract, his smiles and grins just don\'t cut it. It is performance in terms of wins and losses. I personally have nothing against Brooks, but his performance lacks consistency. Why was Bouman brought in? To be the back-up. Back-ups play when the starter gets hurt, is not performing...ok, let\'s give the guy a chance or find another backup that can. Personally, from what I saw at games, I think Bouman has a rocket arm and given 1/2 the chance with the first team, would excel. What do we have to lose? Brooks? Maybe not that bad! Just one point of view. Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome!
	Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over, over, and over again...and expecting a different outcome!

01-23-2004, 02:51 PM	#7
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons From one viewpoint, once Brooks got his contract, his smiles and grins just don\'t cut it. It is performance in terms of wins and losses. I personally have nothing against Brooks, but his performance lacks consistency. Why was Bouman brought in? To be the back-up. Back-ups play when the starter gets hurt, is not performing...ok, let\'s give the guy a chance or find another backup that can. Personally, from what I saw at games, I think Bouman has a rocket arm and given 1/2 the chance with the first team, would excel. What do we have to lose? Brooks? Maybe not that bad! Just one point of view. Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome! For one, it makes no sense!! From what I saw Bouman couldn\'t hit the side of a barn. You\'re going to have to give me a better reason than \"That\'s what I think\" in order for me to buy what you are selling. [Edited on 23/1/2004 by BillyC]
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01-23-2004, 02:52 PM	#8
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons Oh BiloxiIndian -- I\'m from Biloxi too. Well, actually Long Beach, Ms. Glad to have you on board.
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01-23-2004, 02:56 PM	#9
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Comparisons Billy C, good point when your QB is playing well. What was Brooks record this year? How many fumbles does Brooks have to loose to distinguish himself from the pack of GOOD QB\'s. As far as your Peyton comment, he is a Pro-Bowl QB this year. What was his W/L? Point being, he got them to the Promise Land, but could not open the Red Sea! Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome.

01-23-2004, 03:01 PM	#10
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Comparisons Billy C, good to see another Mississippian aboard. As for hitting the side of a barn, Brooks has a problem hitting the same barn. How many passes did we see SAIL over the heads of receivers during the year? Many! I am not trying to sell anything. However, I am willing to give Bouman a chance as opposed to comparing Arron to Jake whom we do not have any longer. BTW; just think about all the qualities we did not like about Jake as a QB and look at him NOW. I look forward to contiuning the discussion, without the sales approach. LOLOLOL \"Insanity is doing the same thing over, over, and over again and expecting a different outcome\"!
	Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over, over, and over again...and expecting a different outcome!