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pinch · 10-10-2011, 07:53 AM

Like others the most important thing we need to be teaching is squaring-up and tackling. Having 300 packages is useless if our guys can't tackle properly. For the life of me I can't understand how we can't gain a yard on bubble screens yet opposing offenses are able to get about 10 yards a pop on us. It's sad to watch.

I also have the feeling that we may be asking our guys to do too much with all of the different looks. It's not like the complex schemes are allowing us to pile-up sacks or turnovers (I believe we're -3 on the year). On a few of the misdirection plays (like the option) we had guys who were so far out of position they weren't even on camera. Those are mental errors for which there is really no excuse at this point in the season, and it could be that we're so worried about confusing the opposing offenses that we're confusing ourselves.

papz · 10-10-2011, 08:05 AM

While tackling was bad, and though I'm also concerned with the consistency and game planning of our defense, on the Smith touchdown, Greer had very good coverage. Steve Smith made a great play and those are plays you just got to tip your hat to him.

Cruize · 10-10-2011, 08:43 AM

The rules of the game strongly favors the offense. You can't touch a QB or WR without getting flagged. The Saints have one NFL quality LB. They don't have a true NFL quality pass rusher. Harper is a liability in coverage. Tackling is a lost art in the NFL and the Saints are in no danger of bucking that trend. With all that being said, I truly think they have actually improved since the season started. And, I think the improvement will continue.

Budsdrinker · 10-10-2011, 08:56 AM

Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure.

papz · 10-10-2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure.

We've been getting massacred defensively when we don't bring the heat. Prime examples is the first half of the Houston game and the whole game against the Packers. We need to create pressure to force them to make errant throws to capitalize when we run our zone coverage. I think we are over-analyzing and need to stop playing chess on defense.

Go rip their faces off and attack the ball. Get offensive on defense.

AlaskaSaints · 10-10-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure.

We're too deep on third and SHORT, more-less third and long. I say this in agreement with you.

Unfortunately, the road will go through Lambeau in early January. No doubt about that.

Alaska

ScottF · 10-10-2011, 09:11 AM

Giving up big plays like Thomas and David were back, and tackling like it's a training camp no-contact drill.
Eventually it will cost us

Garry42 · 10-10-2011, 09:22 AM

Our defence really scares me as well, but I am pleased that we are able to find a way to win so far. Williams has got to tighten these guys up before the late season games, or I am afraid the playoffs will be a short season again. Lots of time yet though, and so far we have dodged a few bullets. I remain hopeful that this can get fixed.

FireVenturi · 10-10-2011, 10:09 AM

A lot of defenses are struggling this year. GB has looked liked Swiss cheese and they are undefeated. This may be the first year you can start saying....Offense wins championships!!!!

Mardigras9 · 10-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Defense keps giving up big plays, eventually the Offense won't be there to bail them out. It will be a killer in a big game.

10-10-2011, 07:53 AM	#1
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Like others the most important thing we need to be teaching is squaring-up and tackling. Having 300 packages is useless if our guys can't tackle properly. For the life of me I can't understand how we can't gain a yard on bubble screens yet opposing offenses are able to get about 10 yards a pop on us. It's sad to watch. I also have the feeling that we may be asking our guys to do too much with all of the different looks. It's not like the complex schemes are allowing us to pile-up sacks or turnovers (I believe we're -3 on the year). On a few of the misdirection plays (like the option) we had guys who were so far out of position they weren't even on camera. Those are mental errors for which there is really no excuse at this point in the season, and it could be that we're so worried about confusing the opposing offenses that we're confusing ourselves. ScottF likes this.

10-10-2011, 08:43 AM	#3
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	The rules of the game strongly favors the offense. You can't touch a QB or WR without getting flagged. The Saints have one NFL quality LB. They don't have a true NFL quality pass rusher. Harper is a liability in coverage. Tackling is a lost art in the NFL and the Saints are in no danger of bucking that trend. With all that being said, I truly think they have actually improved since the season started. And, I think the improvement will continue.
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467

10-10-2011, 10:04 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure. We've been getting massacred defensively when we don't bring the heat. Prime examples is the first half of the Houston game and the whole game against the Packers. We need to create pressure to force them to make errant throws to capitalize when we run our zone coverage. I think we are over-analyzing and need to stop playing chess on defense. Go rip their faces off and attack the ball. Get offensive on defense. Belair57 likes this.

10-10-2011, 11:37 AM	#6
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure. We're too deep on third and SHORT, more-less third and long. I say this in agreement with you. Unfortunately, the road will go through Lambeau in early January. No doubt about that. Alaska

10-10-2011, 10:09 AM	#9
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	A lot of defenses are struggling this year. GB has looked liked Swiss cheese and they are undefeated. This may be the first year you can start saying....Offense wins championships!!!! FinSaint likes this.

10-10-2011, 08:05 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	While tackling was bad, and though I'm also concerned with the consistency and game planning of our defense, on the Smith touchdown, Greer had very good coverage. Steve Smith made a great play and those are plays you just got to tip your hat to him.

10-10-2011, 08:56 AM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Tired of seeing dropping in zone coverage on 3rd and long and giving up a long gain for a first down. Bring the pressure.

10-10-2011, 09:11 AM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Giving up big plays like Thomas and David were back, and tackling like it's a training camp no-contact drill. Eventually it will cost us

10-10-2011, 09:22 AM	#8
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Our defence really scares me as well, but I am pleased that we are able to find a way to win so far. Williams has got to tighten these guys up before the late season games, or I am afraid the playoffs will be a short season again. Lots of time yet though, and so far we have dodged a few bullets. I remain hopeful that this can get fixed.

10-10-2011, 02:02 PM	#10
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Defense keps giving up big plays, eventually the Offense won't be there to bail them out. It will be a killer in a big game.

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