Its time... FIRE GREG WILLIAMS

Euphoria · 10-18-2011, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Defense has not looked good, but it hasn't looked Venturi-bad. Maybe if the defense continues to have problems we consider making a move.

But even assuming Euph is right ... who in the heck would we replace him with? Are any of our defensive assistants good enough?

That is probably the first question to be asked once you realize Williams is no longer the answer!!!

I haven't the slightest. But if Loomis and Payton start kicking rocks and see what under them I am sure we can find someone out there who is ready or even wants in the league.

I do agree we need someone who is a teacher as well as a coach.

Euphoria · 10-18-2011, 01:02 PM

OH CRAP...

GRUDEN!!!

darstep · 10-18-2011, 01:10 PM

I'll take the job Neugey.
#1 Start looking for guys that want to tackle.
#2 Find some guys that can tackle.
#3 Sign guys that will tackle.
It's just gravy after that.

Euphoria · 10-18-2011, 01:14 PM

Well if you had teaching constantly tackling to the players you sign, you got the job.

There was a guy on Tampa that made a great open field tackle on Sproles. sign him.

darstep · 10-18-2011, 01:25 PM

I'm still amazed that guys at this level don't already know how to tackle.

Euphoria · 10-18-2011, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

I'm still amazed that guys at this level don't already know how to tackle.

I use to think that as well but its like anything you constantly need to hone your skills.

Here is an observation I made... when we had Sharper you saw him constantly coming off the field or on the sidelines showing someone a move to knock a pass down to coverage to tackling. He was constantly showing the guys something to help improve or do it right the next time.

You don't see that now on this team at all...

AlaskaSaints · 10-18-2011, 01:35 PM

Hey, Greg!!

Rugby Saint II · 10-18-2011, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

OH CRAP...

GRUDEN!!!

Nope. Gruden just signed an extension and will be around on Monday night football for a while. I like his analysis.
Edit: And as far as firing GW I distinctly remember him coaching defense when we won the Superbowl..........the older DT's we signed just ain't getting it liked we hoped they would. It all starts right there. We get no push and are constantly gashed up the middle. This season isn't over yet. We had a short camp and no one on D is looking sharp yet.......In rugby we are at our best after several games when our conditioning is even better.

Euphoria · 10-18-2011, 01:39 PM

You can get out of those deals and he is known by Payton.

He is a teacher and a coach. I think he is coaching or helping his kids team but hey its a thought.

Srgt. Hulka · 10-18-2011, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

OH CRAP...

GRUDEN!!!

Wow, it took long enough to bring his name up. I thought of Gruden when this thread first started. But I'm not ready to give up on Williams. We know he can coach defense, but he's gonna have to get his head out of his ass and start coaching. Get his defensive backs where they're supposed to be instead of running around the secondary like a bunch of lost high school kids.

10-18-2011, 01:01 PM	#81
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by neugey Defense has not looked good, but it hasn't looked Venturi-bad. Maybe if the defense continues to have problems we consider making a move. But even assuming Euph is right ... who in the heck would we replace him with? Are any of our defensive assistants good enough? That is probably the first question to be asked once you realize Williams is no longer the answer!!! I haven't the slightest. But if Loomis and Payton start kicking rocks and see what under them I am sure we can find someone out there who is ready or even wants in the league. I do agree we need someone who is a teacher as well as a coach.

10-18-2011, 01:34 PM	#86
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by darstep I'm still amazed that guys at this level don't already know how to tackle. I use to think that as well but its like anything you constantly need to hone your skills. Here is an observation I made... when we had Sharper you saw him constantly coming off the field or on the sidelines showing someone a move to knock a pass down to coverage to tackling. He was constantly showing the guys something to help improve or do it right the next time. You don't see that now on this team at all...

10-18-2011, 01:35 PM	#87
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Hey, Greg!! Attached Thumbnails

10-18-2011, 01:35 PM	#88
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Originally Posted by Euphoria OH CRAP... GRUDEN!!! Nope. Gruden just signed an extension and will be around on Monday night football for a while. I like his analysis. Edit: And as far as firing GW I distinctly remember him coaching defense when we won the Superbowl..........the older DT's we signed just ain't getting it liked we hoped they would. It all starts right there. We get no push and are constantly gashed up the middle. This season isn't over yet. We had a short camp and no one on D is looking sharp yet.......In rugby we are at our best after several games when our conditioning is even better.
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Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Originally Posted by Euphoria OH CRAP... GRUDEN!!! Wow, it took long enough to bring his name up. I thought of Gruden when this thread first started. But I'm not ready to give up on Williams. We know he can coach defense, but he's gonna have to get his head out of his ass and start coaching. Get his defensive backs where they're supposed to be instead of running around the secondary like a bunch of lost high school kids.

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10-18-2011, 01:02 PM	#82
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	OH CRAP... GRUDEN!!!

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darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	I'll take the job Neugey. #1 Start looking for guys that want to tackle. #2 Find some guys that can tackle. #3 Sign guys that will tackle. It's just gravy after that.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Well if you had teaching constantly tackling to the players you sign, you got the job. There was a guy on Tampa that made a great open field tackle on Sproles. sign him.

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darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	I'm still amazed that guys at this level don't already know how to tackle.

10-18-2011, 01:39 PM	#89
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	You can get out of those deals and he is known by Payton. He is a teacher and a coach. I think he is coaching or helping his kids team but hey its a thought.

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