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BrooksMustGo · 02-13-2004, 11:29 AM

Brunnell has never had a 16 game RB or more than one receiver.

I can\'t imagine what Brunnell could do with Deuce, Horn, Pathon, Conwell and Williams.

Brooks would be in NFLE if he had the same supporting cast Brunnell had the last several years.

Cadillac · 02-13-2004, 12:40 PM

I can imagine exactly what Brunell would do. Take up cap space and lead the team to an 8-8 season.

In 2000, When Brunell was a starter in this league, he had Fred Taylor. Fred Taylor ran for 1400 yards. He had Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell. Both had 1200 yard seasons. He had a better recieving crew to work with in 2000 than the Saints did last year. Jimmy Smith went to the pro bowl that year and Keenan went this year.

So don\'t even try to say that Brunell has never had anything to work with. The Saints would not be a better team without Brooks.

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/st...nnual/2000-jac

[Edited on 13/2/2004 by Cadillac]

BlackandBlue · 02-13-2004, 01:33 PM

Brunell is not as bad as some of you are making him out to be. I\'d put him right there with Brooks, if he was in his prime. However, he is 33-34 years old, and his years are numbered. Brunell has led his team to two AFC Championships and given the Jaguars the highest winning percentage of any team in the NFL, even though they\'ve only been in existence for 11 years.
Oh, and Cadillac, you haven\'t been around here long enough to get away with calling people ignorant.

canucksaint · 02-13-2004, 01:46 PM

I don\'t think that Brunell is as bad either, however he is about on par with Brooks, and he is older. The money we would save wouldn\'t be all that significant. I\'m just not seeing the big deal with trading to get a new QB. As myself and many other posters have said, we have larger concerns.

Not trying to pick a fight here B&B, but calling someone ignorant means that they are unaware or uninformed http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-b...ry&va=ignorant
cadillac was able to support his comment by providing examples of players who Brunell played with. Thus showing that BMG was incorrect in his assumption. However I do agree, that name calling of any kind is bad form.

BlackandBlue · 02-13-2004, 02:01 PM

I don\'t mind name-calling in a forum, as long as the two participants are both joking and just having some fun. I\'m aware of the definitions of \'ignorant\', there are many- you should visit the following link.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignorant
But if you are new, especially if you\'ve only been posting for two friggin days, you should try to deter from any derogatory comments until you\'ve gotten a feel for other people that have been posting here for a while.
When you start posting to a board, guns-a-blazing, you might make a valid point, but nobody will see it.

[Edited on 13/2/2004 by BlackandBlue]

canucksaint · 02-13-2004, 02:03 PM

agreed.

Cadillac · 02-13-2004, 03:34 PM

I meant that I felt that the comment made by BrooksMustGo was ignorant, but as I read it now it definitely does sound like it is directed at BrooksMustGo the person and not the comment he made. I apologize, I did not mean to offend or insult anyone.

WhoDat · 02-13-2004, 04:18 PM

I want to know how the Brooks-lovers (a la BillyC if he ever resurfaces, Saintfan, Danno, etc.) feel about Brunell drawing comparisons as an equal to Brooks. Think that\'s fair guys?

saintfan · 02-13-2004, 04:24 PM

I haven\'t compared their numbers, but numbers aside I think Brooks is the better QB. That\'s my opinion. I just wonder what a comparison like that has to do with the price of tea in China? Those of you that want Brooks gone aren\'t gonna be convinced of his worth regardless, so why bother with yet another debate? What\'s the point? If you wanna debate somebody on something then tell Saintz08 that Delhomme isn\'t perfect. Brooks is the Saints QB...it\'s time for some of you to come to terms with that.

iceshack149 · 02-13-2004, 04:37 PM

Well I\'m not a \"Brooks lover\" but I do think that he\'s better than at least half of the qb\'s out there. Brunell being one of them.
I think that Brunell in his prime was a better quarterback than Brooks is now however.

Regardless of all of that, Captain Fumbalot is our qb. I think that he\'s physically gifted and....
Dammit whodat, you almost got me going on the Brooks debate.

Keep Brooks, fix the defense, and stop all the fumbles and penalties.

02-13-2004, 11:29 AM	#11
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	QB news around the league Brunnell has never had a 16 game RB or more than one receiver. I can\'t imagine what Brunnell could do with Deuce, Horn, Pathon, Conwell and Williams. Brooks would be in NFLE if he had the same supporting cast Brunnell had the last several years.

02-13-2004, 12:40 PM	#12
Cadillac 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 121	QB news around the league I can imagine exactly what Brunell would do. Take up cap space and lead the team to an 8-8 season. In 2000, When Brunell was a starter in this league, he had Fred Taylor. Fred Taylor ran for 1400 yards. He had Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell. Both had 1200 yard seasons. He had a better recieving crew to work with in 2000 than the Saints did last year. Jimmy Smith went to the pro bowl that year and Keenan went this year. So don\'t even try to say that Brunell has never had anything to work with. The Saints would not be a better team without Brooks. http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/st...nnual/2000-jac [Edited on 13/2/2004 by Cadillac]
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02-13-2004, 01:33 PM	#13
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	QB news around the league Brunell is not as bad as some of you are making him out to be. I\'d put him right there with Brooks, if he was in his prime. However, he is 33-34 years old, and his years are numbered. Brunell has led his team to two AFC Championships and given the Jaguars the highest winning percentage of any team in the NFL, even though they\'ve only been in existence for 11 years. Oh, and Cadillac, you haven\'t been around here long enough to get away with calling people ignorant.

02-13-2004, 01:46 PM	#14
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	QB news around the league I don\'t think that Brunell is as bad either, however he is about on par with Brooks, and he is older. The money we would save wouldn\'t be all that significant. I\'m just not seeing the big deal with trading to get a new QB. As myself and many other posters have said, we have larger concerns. Not trying to pick a fight here B&B, but calling someone ignorant means that they are unaware or uninformed http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-b...ry&va=ignorant cadillac was able to support his comment by providing examples of players who Brunell played with. Thus showing that BMG was incorrect in his assumption. However I do agree, that name calling of any kind is bad form.

02-13-2004, 02:01 PM	#15
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	QB news around the league I don\'t mind name-calling in a forum, as long as the two participants are both joking and just having some fun. I\'m aware of the definitions of \'ignorant\', there are many- you should visit the following link. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignorant But if you are new, especially if you\'ve only been posting for two friggin days, you should try to deter from any derogatory comments until you\'ve gotten a feel for other people that have been posting here for a while. When you start posting to a board, guns-a-blazing, you might make a valid point, but nobody will see it. [Edited on 13/2/2004 by BlackandBlue]
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02-13-2004, 02:03 PM	#16
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	QB news around the league agreed.

02-13-2004, 03:34 PM	#17
Cadillac 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 121	QB news around the league I meant that I felt that the comment made by BrooksMustGo was ignorant, but as I read it now it definitely does sound like it is directed at BrooksMustGo the person and not the comment he made. I apologize, I did not mean to offend or insult anyone.
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02-13-2004, 04:18 PM	#18
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	QB news around the league I want to know how the Brooks-lovers (a la BillyC if he ever resurfaces, Saintfan, Danno, etc.) feel about Brunell drawing comparisons as an equal to Brooks. Think that\'s fair guys?
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02-13-2004, 04:24 PM	#19
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	QB news around the league I haven\'t compared their numbers, but numbers aside I think Brooks is the better QB. That\'s my opinion. I just wonder what a comparison like that has to do with the price of tea in China? Those of you that want Brooks gone aren\'t gonna be convinced of his worth regardless, so why bother with yet another debate? What\'s the point? If you wanna debate somebody on something then tell Saintz08 that Delhomme isn\'t perfect. Brooks is the Saints QB...it\'s time for some of you to come to terms with that.

02-13-2004, 04:37 PM	#20
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	QB news around the league Well I\'m not a \"Brooks lover\" but I do think that he\'s better than at least half of the qb\'s out there. Brunell being one of them. I think that Brunell in his prime was a better quarterback than Brooks is now however. Regardless of all of that, Captain Fumbalot is our qb. I think that he\'s physically gifted and.... Dammit whodat, you almost got me going on the Brooks debate. Keep Brooks, fix the defense, and stop all the fumbles and penalties.