Coin Toss???

the-commish · 11-17-2011, 10:27 AM

I can solve that. Just call thing each coin flip (be it HEADS or TAILS). Then you've got to win at least a few of them.

FinSaint · 11-18-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by the-commish

I can solve that. Just call thing each coin flip (be it HEADS or TAILS). Then you've got to win at least a few of them.

Actually that is not true, since the probability is always 50% it makes no difference which side is picked, because it is in a sense as probable that they get 100 tails in a row as it is they get 100 heads in a row or any mix in between.

The coin toss is pure chance (because of the odds and there being no continuity from one toss to another) unless f.e. the gravings they have on the two sides of the coin make it unbalanced so that it affects its trajectory and makes it more probable that it lands a certain side up or that the mechanics of the toss itself somehow makes one outcome more probable than the other. But all those factors being equal - any string of outcomes is as probable as another string of outcomes.

Srgt. Hulka · 11-17-2011, 02:15 PM

I say we go to Rock Paper Scissors!

Rugby Saint II · 11-17-2011, 05:29 PM

Fire the special teams coach.....he's awful.

saintfan · 11-18-2011, 10:15 PM

My brain just cramped. But I think I now know why I haven't won the lottery. Thanks fellas. lol

ScottF · 11-21-2011, 08:19 AM

the fact that 52% of teams winning the coin toss win the game is what is known as a coincidence. That margin is too small to consider relevant.

last year we lead the league in first quarter scoring- might be bc we had an extra possession each game

here's another stat for you: Teams that lose 100% of their coin tosses win exactly 70% of their games ( small sample size: 2011 NO Saints

Budsdrinker · 11-21-2011, 09:22 AM

I don't mind losing the toss especially at home. Let the defense come out get the crowd into it make a stop and we get great field position to score then we get the ball first to start the 2nd half. It has worked great at home so far.

95shakinpf · 11-26-2011, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I don't mind losing the toss especially at home. Let the defense come out get the crowd into it make a stop and we get great field position to score then we get the ball first to start the 2nd half. It has worked great at home so far.

exactly.....
well said

homerj07 · 11-24-2011, 10:30 AM

New Orleans Saints can't make heads or tails of 0-11 streak - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

When the Atlanta Falcons completed a furious fourth-quarter rally to tie the score against the New Orleans Saints and send their Nov. 13 game to overtime, fate, if not momentum, seemingly was on New Orleans' side. The Saints, after all, had lost 10 consecutive coin tosses. Surely this time, with the inimitable Drew Brees making the all-important call, would be different. The odds were in their favor. They were due.

UK_WhoDat · 11-24-2011, 04:06 PM

Couldn't give a toss, to coin another phrase.

But we can play ball

11-18-2011, 09:43 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by the-commish I can solve that. Just call thing each coin flip (be it HEADS or TAILS). Then you've got to win at least a few of them. Actually that is not true, since the probability is always 50% it makes no difference which side is picked, because it is in a sense as probable that they get 100 tails in a row as it is they get 100 heads in a row or any mix in between. The coin toss is pure chance (because of the odds and there being no continuity from one toss to another) unless f.e. the gravings they have on the two sides of the coin make it unbalanced so that it affects its trajectory and makes it more probable that it lands a certain side up or that the mechanics of the toss itself somehow makes one outcome more probable than the other. But all those factors being equal - any string of outcomes is as probable as another string of outcomes.
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11-17-2011, 02:15 PM	#3
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	I say we go to Rock Paper Scissors! saintfan, SaintPauly and Kryptonite like this.

11-21-2011, 08:19 AM	#6
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	the fact that 52% of teams winning the coin toss win the game is what is known as a coincidence. That margin is too small to consider relevant. last year we lead the league in first quarter scoring- might be bc we had an extra possession each game here's another stat for you: Teams that lose 100% of their coin tosses win exactly 70% of their games ( small sample size: 2011 NO Saints papz likes this.

11-26-2011, 06:13 AM	#8
95shakinpf Registered Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Picayune,MS Posts: 91	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I don't mind losing the toss especially at home. Let the defense come out get the crowd into it make a stop and we get great field position to score then we get the ball first to start the 2nd half. It has worked great at home so far. exactly..... well said

11-24-2011, 10:30 AM	#9
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Saints Can't make head or tails out 0-11 New Orleans Saints can't make heads or tails of 0-11 streak - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com When the Atlanta Falcons completed a furious fourth-quarter rally to tie the score against the New Orleans Saints and send their Nov. 13 game to overtime, fate, if not momentum, seemingly was on New Orleans' side. The Saints, after all, had lost 10 consecutive coin tosses. Surely this time, with the inimitable Drew Brees making the all-important call, would be different. The odds were in their favor. They were due.

11-17-2011, 10:27 AM	#1
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	I can solve that. Just call thing each coin flip (be it HEADS or TAILS). Then you've got to win at least a few of them.

11-17-2011, 05:29 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,121	Fire the special teams coach.....he's awful.

11-18-2011, 10:15 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	My brain just cramped. But I think I now know why I haven't won the lottery. Thanks fellas. lol

11-21-2011, 09:22 AM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	I don't mind losing the toss especially at home. Let the defense come out get the crowd into it make a stop and we get great field position to score then we get the ball first to start the 2nd half. It has worked great at home so far.

11-24-2011, 04:06 PM	#10
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Couldn't give a toss, to coin another phrase. But we can play ball