It was not going to be a safety. After initially throwing the flag, the referee picked it up and moved it to just outside the 1 yard line which meant THAT was the point of the foul. The penalty would have been half the distance.

I think I understand you.

What your saying is that the hold occurred on the one yard line and the ref threw it in the wrong spot. He then picked up the flag and placed it where he saw the penalty occur and then they all decided that the ref was not seeing clearly.

That's the best I've heard yet. Lol.

Why are you coming around now? Why not come around when it looked like your team had a chance in the playoffs?

The explanation was garbled but it was not a safety.

I was invited here. Blame your fellow members.

I still believe the Falcons have a shot, it just didn't look like it Monday night.

I invited phocis850 here. He is a gracious host and mod at atlantafalconstalk.com. For well over a year he has treated me with the utmost respect on his site and deserves the same here.

I just have to ask.... Whats the average age of a Referee in the NFL? Cant be under 50. How is it only the NFL believes that hearing, vision, and reflexes get better with age?

Ok, I looked it up. In 2007 the average age was 51.

Ed (hold-up swole-up) Hochuli is frikken 61!

The refs are not out of control.... They are out of Centrum!

He snipes and you get what you give. Prove me wrong and I have a toaster for him.

I have known him for over a year and he is as cool as it gets. He has defended me on numerous occasions on his board against overzealous Falcons fans. I have more respect for him than several of our members here.

Next time we play ill eat that burnt toast of yours :)

But looking at the average age of 51, im not sure that's a problem really. They do see quite a bit out there. And they don't have eagle eyes when things are moving that fast and their view may be obstructed.

Im not complaining about the missed calls, I'm strictly talking about straight up bad calls and potential fraud.