Numbers don't lie...

papz · 01-09-2012, 04:32 PM

I wouldn't use the Steelers as a main example. Their offensive line has been bad, running game has been non-existent, no tight end production, Ben's been banged up, and their receiving core has been hit or miss.

So... it's not like that's a big accomplishment.

Budsdrinker · 01-09-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season

They held the steelers to 3 points

They Have the best redzone defense in the league

Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs

Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds

I didn't say they had a bad defense hell I wish we had their LB corp. And yes, i have watched a few of their games. I watched Romo beat them with a long TD pass on busted coverage and although they didn't win, Vick throwing for over 400 yards against them and both Eli and a crippled Big Ben threw for over 300 yards. So yes I feel confident that we can move the ball on the 49ers and score some points and for an added bonus Ivory will have a rushing td.

SaintsBro · 01-09-2012, 04:37 PM

Yeah I mean the other stats are certainly legit, but as for holding the Steelers to 3 points well I watched that game, pretty closely knowing that we might end up playing Frisco, and I could clearly tell that Rothlisberger was just "not right" and totally off his game. There were plenty of plays/opportunities where a normal Ben or even last night's Ben would have had no difficulty making a throw or running the ball or doing whatever, but he couldn't do any of it, he was too gimpy and hobbled. It was kinda painful to watch. I mean it certainly made it easier for their defense to do that.

CantonLegend · 01-09-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I wouldn't use the Steelers as a main example. Their offensive line has been bad, running game has been non-existent, no tight end production, Ben's been banged up, and their receiving core has been hit or miss.

So... it's not like that's a big accomplishment.

Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league

Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment

Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them

ScottF · 01-09-2012, 04:42 PM

I started by saying that SF was the best D we have faced this year. No one is arguing with you, except for your ridiculously hyperbolic statement about Cushing, Joseph and the number 4 D being little girls

papz · 01-09-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league

Has nothing to do with holding the Steelers to 3 points. We're talking about the 49ers defense against the Steelers offense.

Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment

Yea it was a very good win for them... I don't disagree.

Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them

We're talking about the 49ers/Steelers. This also is irrelevant.

Mardigras9 · 01-09-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league

Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment

Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them

Not sure anyone could have won against the Rams team we played on that day. SF has a ligit D, no doubt. It will be a huge challenge, but the Saints are playing as well as they have all year. I like our chances.

Danno · 01-09-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season

They held the steelers to 3 points

They Have the best redzone defense in the league

Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs

Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds

Yes I've seen them play. I'm not saying they aren't good. You're saying they make Houston's defense look like little girls, which is laughable.

CantonLegend · 01-09-2012, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I didn't say they had a bad defense hell I wish we had their LB corp. And yes, i have watched a few of their games. I watched Romo beat them with a long TD pass on busted coverage and although they didn't win, Vick throwing for over 400 yards against them and both Eli and a crippled Big Ben threw for over 300 yards. So yes I feel confident that we can move the ball on the 49ers and score some points and for an added bonus Ivory will have a rushing td.

So Ben had a good game? I thought he was hurt so that game was a bad example? Which is it?

Was he too hurt or was he shredding their D? To me that's an excuse

Injuries happen and you can blame the game on injuries or you could admit that the steelers are a defensive team and their injured QB had less impact on the outcome of the game than ppl think

I can't defend the 49ers weak schedule but we all know how yardage gets accumulated in garbage time and we all know points are more important than yards

I don't care if we give up 211 yards to Calvin Johnson because I know we can stop them just enough for our offense to do its job

The 49ers are the same way. Except they are very good at getting sacks and turnovers

saintfan · 01-09-2012, 05:00 PM

01-09-2012, 04:32 PM	#31
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	I wouldn't use the Steelers as a main example. Their offensive line has been bad, running game has been non-existent, no tight end production, Ben's been banged up, and their receiving core has been hit or miss. So... it's not like that's a big accomplishment. dam1953 likes this.

01-09-2012, 04:36 PM	#32
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season They held the steelers to 3 points They Have the best redzone defense in the league Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds I didn't say they had a bad defense hell I wish we had their LB corp. And yes, i have watched a few of their games. I watched Romo beat them with a long TD pass on busted coverage and although they didn't win, Vick throwing for over 400 yards against them and both Eli and a crippled Big Ben threw for over 300 yards. So yes I feel confident that we can move the ball on the 49ers and score some points and for an added bonus Ivory will have a rushing td. dam1953 likes this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah I mean the other stats are certainly legit, but as for holding the Steelers to 3 points well I watched that game, pretty closely knowing that we might end up playing Frisco, and I could clearly tell that Rothlisberger was just "not right" and totally off his game. There were plenty of plays/opportunities where a normal Ben or even last night's Ben would have had no difficulty making a throw or running the ball or doing whatever, but he couldn't do any of it, he was too gimpy and hobbled. It was kinda painful to watch. I mean it certainly made it easier for their defense to do that. dam1953 likes this.

01-09-2012, 04:40 PM	#34
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by papz I wouldn't use the Steelers as a main example. Their offensive line has been bad, running game has been non-existent, no tight end production, Ben's been banged up, and their receiving core has been hit or miss. So... it's not like that's a big accomplishment. Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	I started by saying that SF was the best D we have faced this year. No one is arguing with you, except for your ridiculously hyperbolic statement about Cushing, Joseph and the number 4 D being little girls dam1953 likes this.

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01-09-2012, 04:42 PM	#36
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league Has nothing to do with holding the Steelers to 3 points. We're talking about the 49ers defense against the Steelers offense. Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment Yea it was a very good win for them... I don't disagree. Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them We're talking about the 49ers/Steelers. This also is irrelevant.

01-09-2012, 04:50 PM	#37
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Lol they went 12-4 with the best defense in the league Beating the steelers is a huge accomplishment Alright then...how about shutting the rams out? We couldn't even manage beating them Not sure anyone could have won against the Rams team we played on that day. SF has a ligit D, no doubt. It will be a huge challenge, but the Saints are playing as well as they have all year. I like our chances.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season They held the steelers to 3 points They Have the best redzone defense in the league Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds Yes I've seen them play. I'm not saying they aren't good. You're saying they make Houston's defense look like little girls, which is laughable. dam1953 likes this.

01-09-2012, 04:52 PM	#39
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I didn't say they had a bad defense hell I wish we had their LB corp. And yes, i have watched a few of their games. I watched Romo beat them with a long TD pass on busted coverage and although they didn't win, Vick throwing for over 400 yards against them and both Eli and a crippled Big Ben threw for over 300 yards. So yes I feel confident that we can move the ball on the 49ers and score some points and for an added bonus Ivory will have a rushing td. So Ben had a good game? I thought he was hurt so that game was a bad example? Which is it? Was he too hurt or was he shredding their D? To me that's an excuse Injuries happen and you can blame the game on injuries or you could admit that the steelers are a defensive team and their injured QB had less impact on the outcome of the game than ppl think I can't defend the 49ers weak schedule but we all know how yardage gets accumulated in garbage time and we all know points are more important than yards I don't care if we give up 211 yards to Calvin Johnson because I know we can stop them just enough for our offense to do its job The 49ers are the same way. Except they are very good at getting sacks and turnovers
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