Numbers don't lie...

pherein · 01-09-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season

They held the steelers to 3 points

They Have the best redzone defense in the league

Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs

Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds

Any defense looks brilliant playing the colts for 16 games. If we did that we would have 0 rushing TD's, and allow only 7pts a game, with and average of 61 points per game.....

Are you not understanding dam1953 is pointing out the quality of opponents they played?

saintfan · 01-09-2012, 04:16 PM

Maverick2299 · 01-09-2012, 04:20 PM

This game is going to come down to the turn-over difference.

JNHarada · 01-09-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Why are we comparing running games? Let's compare passing, since that's what Drew holds records in so many categories...

Romo = 345 yards
Vick = 416 yards -ouch
Stafford = 293 yards
Manning = 311 yards
Roethlisburger = 330 yards
against the 49ers defense

and I know that Drew is better than all of those, with the better O-Line than the previous examples...

All of those except Romo were losses. And the cowboys won in OT.

lumm0x · 01-09-2012, 04:37 PM

They're good. We're better. Can't wait.

pherein · 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by JNHarada

All of those except Romo were losses.

aaw to bad I thought you won those games I guess your worse than I thought.

|Mitch| · 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by JNHarada

All of those except Romo were losses. And the cowboys won in OT.

you missed the whole emphasis of this thread;

the OP was just showing that other teams moved the ball on your D. I took it a step further and showed that lesser QB's put 300+ passing yards on your D. And if you think that if Drew throws for 416 and you still win, you're delusional...

homerj07 · 01-09-2012, 07:59 PM

stats can say almost anything they want BUT I think there are some valid points.

It all boils down to who wants the game the most & which team can avoid stupid plays (i.e. Turnovers!!)

un3ek9er · 01-09-2012, 08:24 PM

I believe what Canton is implying is that even though we give up passing yards, what matters is points on the board which in my opinion should rank a defense. We have an average of 14.3 points. Steelers beat us by .1 point with 14.2. We gave up a garbage TD to the Rams in week 17 which knocked us down a peg.

You guys imply that you have a "bend don't break" defense. Well, that is exactly what the 9ers have. You can have the first 80 yds, but the last 20 belong to our defense. Hence, best red zone defense in football.

Who cares if you throw up 300 + yds on us if you're not scoring TD's and at the end, we come out with the win.

CantonLegend · 01-09-2012, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Any defense looks brilliant playing the colts for 16 games. If we did that we would have 0 rushing TD's, and allow only 7pts a game, with and average of 61 points per game.....

Are you not understanding dam1953 is pointing out the quality of opponents they played?

How many games did they get to choose on their schedule?

They play the games on their schedule and came out with an outstanding record

We played several weak teams too but nobody here will point that out.

You can't simply look at the schedule and pretend like it shows their deficiencies

The 49ers gave up yards but not TDs. Who really gives a crap if a qb throws for 900 yards if he can't put it in the end zone?

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Have you watched the 49ers play? They didn't give up a rushing td for 3/4 of the season They held the steelers to 3 points They Have the best redzone defense in the league Ppl say we give up yards but don't give up TDs Well the 49ers are the best in the league at preventing Tds Any defense looks brilliant playing the colts for 16 games. If we did that we would have 0 rushing TD's, and allow only 7pts a game, with and average of 61 points per game..... Are you not understanding dam1953 is pointing out the quality of opponents they played? dam1953 likes this.

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01-09-2012, 04:21 PM	#44
JNHarada Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 3	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Why are we comparing running games? Let's compare passing, since that's what Drew holds records in so many categories... Romo = 345 yards Vick = 416 yards -ouch Stafford = 293 yards Manning = 311 yards Roethlisburger = 330 yards against the 49ers defense and I know that Drew is better than all of those, with the better O-Line than the previous examples... All of those except Romo were losses. And the cowboys won in OT.
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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by JNHarada All of those except Romo were losses. aaw to bad I thought you won those games I guess your worse than I thought.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by JNHarada All of those except Romo were losses. And the cowboys won in OT. you missed the whole emphasis of this thread; the OP was just showing that other teams moved the ball on your D. I took it a step further and showed that lesser QB's put 300+ passing yards on your D. And if you think that if Drew throws for 416 and you still win, you're delusional... savoyk and pherein like this.

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un3ek9er Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 9	I believe what Canton is implying is that even though we give up passing yards, what matters is points on the board which in my opinion should rank a defense. We have an average of 14.3 points. Steelers beat us by .1 point with 14.2. We gave up a garbage TD to the Rams in week 17 which knocked us down a peg. You guys imply that you have a "bend don't break" defense. Well, that is exactly what the 9ers have. You can have the first 80 yds, but the last 20 belong to our defense. Hence, best red zone defense in football. Who cares if you throw up 300 + yds on us if you're not scoring TD's and at the end, we come out with the win.
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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by pherein Any defense looks brilliant playing the colts for 16 games. If we did that we would have 0 rushing TD's, and allow only 7pts a game, with and average of 61 points per game..... Are you not understanding dam1953 is pointing out the quality of opponents they played? How many games did they get to choose on their schedule? They play the games on their schedule and came out with an outstanding record We played several weak teams too but nobody here will point that out. You can't simply look at the schedule and pretend like it shows their deficiencies The 49ers gave up yards but not TDs. Who really gives a crap if a qb throws for 900 yards if he can't put it in the end zone?

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