Shanle-'Opponents solved Williams defense'

st thomas · 01-23-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by GoShanle#58

I must say I'm a little stunned to see Shanle said something like this. It is true and someone had to say it, I'm just surprised Shanle stepped up and said it.

Theres a bunch of Shanle haters out there and a few Shanle supporters, all in all you have to give him credit where its due though, the guy came into the league as a 7th rounder got bounced around from St. Louis to Dallas then got traded for a 7th rounder to New Orleans, won a Super Bowl Ring. All you haters ***** and moan about how mediocre he is. SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

maybe shanle was figured out not GW. a. smith had him spinin like a top on the CATCH. POUR Bastard he tried though. lol.

SAINTstunna · 01-23-2012, 11:54 AM

Scott is right. a blitz is supposed to be a surprise. we did it so much, teams knew the middle of the field would be wide open, there would also be man to man on the outside and if no one is open, theres no one left the watch for the QB which led to Smith's td run and other big plays. I've been sayn this for years!!!!!!!!!1

FireVenturi · 01-23-2012, 12:17 PM

Of all guys....Shanle? Really?

Don't throw stones in a glass house!!!

Tobias-Reiper · 01-23-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504

I hate to go back to the Buddy Ryan days but the whole league knew he ran the 46-week in and out and if memory serves correct they never got gashed in the run nor the pass in the manner our defense has played also GW didn’t have the type of players he truly needed to run that system. Just think if we had the one stud D-lineman and the one stud LB (Vilma was approaching studdism prior to injuries) the tunes would have been different. Granted they may come up with an offense game plan but if your D is on it’s on. The Giants and 49ers play that type of D all season so no SHANLE they figured out that YOU and ROMAN HARPER are week links in coverage. If it was me Fujita would have stayed;

Nostalgia is clouding your memory.
Yes, the 46 defense was an innovation 25 years ago, and yes, that one 1985 season the Bears D was awesome and was good for 1 SB (although Miami hung 38 points on them on their way there). But they got figured out too. Just took a couple of years longer it takes to figure out stagnant systems now.

If we bring up the past to use as a comparison for situations today, I think I'd compare GW's defense with the old Packer sweep. Everyone knew the sweep was coming, how it was coming, when it was coming, yet, no one could stop it. They ran that sweep half of their offensive snaps. Do you think that would work today? Of course not. Today, they would have to disguise it with formations, movement, calls at the line, etc. Same as with GW's defense. You know what's coming, you know how it is coming, when, so teams prepare better for it and know how to beat it.

AlaskaSaints · 01-23-2012, 12:30 PM

Headline:

Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose!

Alaska

BIGEASY504 · 01-23-2012, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by GoShanle#58

I must say I'm a little stunned to see Shanle said something like this. It is true and someone had to say it, I'm just surprised Shanle stepped up and said it.

Theres a bunch of Shanle haters out there and a few Shanle supporters, all in all you have to give him credit where its due though, the guy came into the league as a 7th rounder got bounced around from St. Louis to Dallas then got traded for a 7th rounder to New Orleans, won a Super Bowl Ring. All you haters ***** and moan about how mediocre he is. SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

7th rounder, if he played like Colston than yeah other than that Shanle's a no go!!!!

gandhi1007 · 01-23-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Headline:

Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose!

Alaska

LMFAO!!! I just spit my drink out. LOL.

CharityMike · 01-23-2012, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Headline:

Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose!

Alaska

That is hilarious!!!

I'm not going to say much else on this subject. I believe I have made my feelings known.

To clear up some things from earlier in this thread, I want to explain my rationale.

To me, if you are saying anything other than: He sucks, he is the worst Lb on this team, he is garbage or he is below average, you are a Shanle supporter.

I'm not knocking those on here that are. Everyone is entitled to there opinion. Hope this clears any earlier transgressions up.

jeanpierre · 01-23-2012, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm disappointed Shanle said that. It makes me think there may have been some tension towards the end.

Shanle is a very smart player and will likely make a good NFL coach someday. He probably spoke up about the schemes in meetings and was shot down.

Shanle's not nearly as bad as many say but certainly isn't what I'd call a good LB. He's a lot like Fujita... average.

Exactly...

He realized the scheme was bad - and I don't have a problem with his criticism now that the season is over...

I think he's much better than the criticism he receives here - but he's exposed as not being a perennial ProBowler...

CharityMike · 01-24-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

but he's exposed as not being a perennial ProBowler...

LOL..perennial?? I just don't gt where this undying love for this dude comes from. He has done NOTHING..if I felt like wasting the time, I bet I could prove he is the worst starting LB in the league. I might just do it for chit and giggles but no matter how bad the stats are going to look some will still support him.

I have already posted his career stats but apparently he is still an avg LB.

01-23-2012, 11:16 AM	#41
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by GoShanle#58 I must say I'm a little stunned to see Shanle said something like this. It is true and someone had to say it, I'm just surprised Shanle stepped up and said it. Theres a bunch of Shanle haters out there and a few Shanle supporters, all in all you have to give him credit where its due though, the guy came into the league as a 7th rounder got bounced around from St. Louis to Dallas then got traded for a 7th rounder to New Orleans, won a Super Bowl Ring. All you haters ***** and moan about how mediocre he is. SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! maybe shanle was figured out not GW. a. smith had him spinin like a top on the CATCH. POUR Bastard he tried though. lol.

01-23-2012, 12:27 PM	#44
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 I hate to go back to the Buddy Ryan days but the whole league knew he ran the 46-week in and out and if memory serves correct they never got gashed in the run nor the pass in the manner our defense has played also GW didn’t have the type of players he truly needed to run that system. Just think if we had the one stud D-lineman and the one stud LB (Vilma was approaching studdism prior to injuries) the tunes would have been different. Granted they may come up with an offense game plan but if your D is on it’s on. The Giants and 49ers play that type of D all season so no SHANLE they figured out that YOU and ROMAN HARPER are week links in coverage. If it was me Fujita would have stayed; Nostalgia is clouding your memory. Yes, the 46 defense was an innovation 25 years ago, and yes, that one 1985 season the Bears D was awesome and was good for 1 SB (although Miami hung 38 points on them on their way there). But they got figured out too. Just took a couple of years longer it takes to figure out stagnant systems now. If we bring up the past to use as a comparison for situations today, I think I'd compare GW's defense with the old Packer sweep. Everyone knew the sweep was coming, how it was coming, when it was coming, yet, no one could stop it. They ran that sweep half of their offensive snaps. Do you think that would work today? Of course not. Today, they would have to disguise it with formations, movement, calls at the line, etc. Same as with GW's defense. You know what's coming, you know how it is coming, when, so teams prepare better for it and know how to beat it.
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01-23-2012, 12:30 PM	#45
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Headline: Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose! Alaska Belair57 and CharityMike like this.

01-23-2012, 02:22 PM	#46
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Originally Posted by GoShanle#58 I must say I'm a little stunned to see Shanle said something like this. It is true and someone had to say it, I'm just surprised Shanle stepped up and said it. Theres a bunch of Shanle haters out there and a few Shanle supporters, all in all you have to give him credit where its due though, the guy came into the league as a 7th rounder got bounced around from St. Louis to Dallas then got traded for a 7th rounder to New Orleans, won a Super Bowl Ring. All you haters ***** and moan about how mediocre he is. SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! 7th rounder, if he played like Colston than yeah other than that Shanle's a no go!!!!
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01-23-2012, 06:49 PM	#47
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Headline: Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose! Alaska LMFAO!!! I just spit my drink out. LOL.

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01-23-2012, 11:54 AM	#42
SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	Scott is right. a blitz is supposed to be a surprise. we did it so much, teams knew the middle of the field would be wide open, there would also be man to man on the outside and if no one is open, theres no one left the watch for the QB which led to Smith's td run and other big plays. I've been sayn this for years!!!!!!!!!1

01-23-2012, 12:17 PM	#43
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Of all guys....Shanle? Really? Don't throw stones in a glass house!!!

01-23-2012, 09:59 PM	#48
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Headline: Shanle was "held back" by Greg Williams. The BEAST is now loose! Alaska That is hilarious!!! I'm not going to say much else on this subject. I believe I have made my feelings known. To clear up some things from earlier in this thread, I want to explain my rationale. To me, if you are saying anything other than: He sucks, he is the worst Lb on this team, he is garbage or he is below average, you are a Shanle supporter. I'm not knocking those on here that are. Everyone is entitled to there opinion. Hope this clears any earlier transgressions up.

01-23-2012, 10:55 PM	#49
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by Danno I'm disappointed Shanle said that. It makes me think there may have been some tension towards the end. Shanle is a very smart player and will likely make a good NFL coach someday. He probably spoke up about the schemes in meetings and was shot down. Shanle's not nearly as bad as many say but certainly isn't what I'd call a good LB. He's a lot like Fujita... average. Exactly... He realized the scheme was bad - and I don't have a problem with his criticism now that the season is over... I think he's much better than the criticism he receives here - but he's exposed as not being a perennial ProBowler...

01-24-2012, 12:45 AM	#50
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by jeanpierre but he's exposed as not being a perennial ProBowler... LOL..perennial?? I just don't gt where this undying love for this dude comes from. He has done NOTHING..if I felt like wasting the time, I bet I could prove he is the worst starting LB in the league. I might just do it for chit and giggles but no matter how bad the stats are going to look some will still support him. I have already posted his career stats but apparently he is still an avg LB. Belair57 likes this.

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