Kicker for 2012 season?

FinSaint · 02-07-2012, 10:54 AM

Hartley is under contract = case closed.

Halo · 02-07-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Hartley is under contract = case closed.

I'd like to know the details of that contract. Kasay made this season so easy to watch.

Lest me not forget after a superb 2009 season, in 2010 it was a kick by kick heart attack. Lets not forget the missed extra points.

Possibly could be Hartley as kicker and Kasay as kicking coach. If Hartley misses 1 field goal within 50 or 1 extra point, we can deactivate him and insert Kasay.

FinSaint · 02-07-2012, 11:54 AM

He signed the new 5-year contract in 2010, which was worth $10.3M with a signing bonus of $3M with an average yearly salary of $2.1M.

His cap hit for next season is $1.7M and with that figure he is cheaper than what at least Carolina were paying Kasay when he was with them, but Kasay's current contract was undisclosed, so I don't know what the Saints were paying him.

WhoDat!656 · 02-07-2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Hartley concerns me, a season ending injury at his age...I think they will bring in some stiff competetion this summer. If he doesn't win that battle with authority he's gone. An injury like that is like a rebuilt transmission, it works but will never truly be the same.

IMO, Hartley's injury wasn't season-ending; the Saints didn't have the time or roster space to tie up waiting for him to heal.

The Saints FO probably knew there were only a few FA quality kickers left and pulled the trigger putting Hartley on IR so they could sign Kasay.

lynwood · 02-07-2012, 12:56 PM

Hartley. %wise no different than Kasey, but has a Stronger leg.

Rugby Saint II · 02-07-2012, 03:11 PM

Hartley stills owns a Superbowl record for kicks over 40 in a Superbowl.........he might get a long look at camp.

Kasay made this season more viewer friendly with fewer heart attacks. As a veteran he looks the part.

SaintsBro · 02-07-2012, 03:50 PM

In the beginning of the Payton era there were always problems with the kickers --> looks pointedly in the direction of special teams coach Greg McMahon <--- and Hartley was supposed to be the solution to that, hand-picked to solve the kicking woes once and for all. Actually, even before Payton got here the Saints kickers were a mess. Like him or not, Hartley IS the intended solution to that. I think it's going to be Hartley (with Kasay on speed dial), and my advice is for people to stop stressing out about it -- the guy is numerically a very reliable kicker. People REALLY need to let that one Falcons game go -- put it in the rearview mirror. It's been talked about a million times, there were TONS of people at fault in that game, it should never have even been in overtime in the first place...Ivory fumbled, Drew threw a really dumb INT, Pierre Thomas broke his freaking ankle..it was not just the one kick that lost it.

saintfan · 02-07-2012, 03:59 PM

It will be Hartley, and do you want to know why? Because he deserves to be here...

AlaskaSaints · 02-07-2012, 04:46 PM

I mean...

Who misses a season because he hurt himself kicking a field goal??????

Dempsey lost half his foot and showed up next week and kicked a 63 yarder for Christ's sake!!!

At least I think that's how it went...

LOL

Alaska

LBCutta · 02-07-2012, 07:27 PM

I can honestly say I didnt cringe nearly as much this year in FG situations as I did last year in the same situations with Hartley.

02-07-2012, 11:08 AM	#12
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by FinSaint Hartley is under contract = case closed. I'd like to know the details of that contract. Kasay made this season so easy to watch. Lest me not forget after a superb 2009 season, in 2010 it was a kick by kick heart attack. Lets not forget the missed extra points. Possibly could be Hartley as kicker and Kasay as kicking coach. If Hartley misses 1 field goal within 50 or 1 extra point, we can deactivate him and insert Kasay.

02-07-2012, 12:47 PM	#14
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Originally Posted by Beastmode Hartley concerns me, a season ending injury at his age...I think they will bring in some stiff competetion this summer. If he doesn't win that battle with authority he's gone. An injury like that is like a rebuilt transmission, it works but will never truly be the same. IMO, Hartley's injury wasn't season-ending; the Saints didn't have the time or roster space to tie up waiting for him to heal. The Saints FO probably knew there were only a few FA quality kickers left and pulled the trigger putting Hartley on IR so they could sign Kasay.

02-07-2012, 03:11 PM	#16
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Hartley stills owns a Superbowl record for kicks over 40 in a Superbowl.........he might get a long look at camp. Kasay made this season more viewer friendly with fewer heart attacks. As a veteran he looks the part. AlaskaSaints likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	It will be Hartley, and do you want to know why? Because he deserves to be here... Ashley and Srgt. Hulka like this.

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02-07-2012, 11:54 AM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	He signed the new 5-year contract in 2010, which was worth $10.3M with a signing bonus of $3M with an average yearly salary of $2.1M. His cap hit for next season is $1.7M and with that figure he is cheaper than what at least Carolina were paying Kasay when he was with them, but Kasay's current contract was undisclosed, so I don't know what the Saints were paying him.

02-07-2012, 12:56 PM	#15
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Hartley. %wise no different than Kasey, but has a Stronger leg.

02-07-2012, 03:50 PM	#17
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	In the beginning of the Payton era there were always problems with the kickers --> looks pointedly in the direction of special teams coach Greg McMahon <--- and Hartley was supposed to be the solution to that, hand-picked to solve the kicking woes once and for all. Actually, even before Payton got here the Saints kickers were a mess. Like him or not, Hartley IS the intended solution to that. I think it's going to be Hartley (with Kasay on speed dial), and my advice is for people to stop stressing out about it -- the guy is numerically a very reliable kicker. People REALLY need to let that one Falcons game go -- put it in the rearview mirror. It's been talked about a million times, there were TONS of people at fault in that game, it should never have even been in overtime in the first place...Ivory fumbled, Drew threw a really dumb INT, Pierre Thomas broke his freaking ankle..it was not just the one kick that lost it.

02-07-2012, 04:46 PM	#19
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	I mean... Who misses a season because he hurt himself kicking a field goal?????? Dempsey lost half his foot and showed up next week and kicked a 63 yarder for Christ's sake!!! At least I think that's how it went... LOL Alaska

02-07-2012, 07:27 PM	#20
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	I can honestly say I didnt cringe nearly as much this year in FG situations as I did last year in the same situations with Hartley.