2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

FinSaint · 03-20-2012, 04:44 AM

Broncos re-signed Woodyard, so he is no longer an upgrade option for the Saints' LB corps.

Maybe they are giving Chamberlain some consideration, because Spags had him for two years in St. Louis, and then either Lofton or Hawthorne to strengthen the MLB position.

jeanpierre · 03-20-2012, 07:21 PM

The Saints want Lofton, but his asking price may be higher than what his history and body of work supports...

May have to get creative and add some incentive benchmarks that reflect AllPro (not ProBowl) acheivements and special plays (int's, forced fumbles) - but we'd better be careful and not disclose that or Skip Bayless, Mike Florio, and Peter King might become bothered by this disturbing trend of paying based on performance...

SloMotion · 03-21-2012, 06:10 AM

... there's always Hawthorne ...

FinSaint · 03-21-2012, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... there's for the time being Hawthorne ...

There, I fixed it for ya buddy!

SloMotion · 03-21-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

There, I fixed it for ya buddy!

Ok, I'll give you an 'assist' on that one,

. I am hoping though, that the Lions do go ahead with talking to Hawthorne, they still could use help at LB even with resigning Tulloch. I'm looking for some word on what they did, if anything, but not getting my hopes up too much.

Lofton would look good in black/gold though, and it'd be a nice dig at Atlanta,

.

Everyone might have to start looking to the draft to address linebacker issues, cap space and all.

FinSaint · 03-26-2012, 10:25 AM

I think Jeremiha Hunter played WLB in college if I remember correctly, and I remember reading an evaluation of him that stated that he could make the transition to MLB with relative ease.

You have him slated at SLB depth, is that the position you see him possibly playing in Spags' system (i.e. best fit)?

I also think that both Humber and Butler might be gone, since they could easily be replaced by UDFAs or lower round draft picks - at least Humber failed to impress me the few times I remember seeing him on the field.

A 2nd or 3rd round pick for Ellis would be awesome, but I fear that there won't be anyone stupid enough to give that to the Saints, regardless of whether he gets suspended or not.

jeanpierre · 03-26-2012, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I think Jeremiha Hunter played WLB in college if I remember correctly, and I remember reading an evaluation of him that stated that he could make the transition to MLB with relative ease.

You have him slated at SLB depth, is that the position you see him possibly playing in Spags' system (i.e. best fit)?

I also think that both Humber and Butler might be gone, since they could easily be replaced by UDFAs or lower round draft picks - at least Humber failed to impress me the few times I remember seeing him on the field.

A 2nd or 3rd round pick for Ellis would be awesome, but I fear that there won't be anyone stupid enough to give that to the Saints, regardless of whether he gets suspended or not.

Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there...

Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go...

FinSaint · 03-27-2012, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there...

Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go...

I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s).

And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy.

Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth?

I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation.

I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps.

He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.

jeanpierre · 03-28-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s).

And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy.

Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth?

I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation.

I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps.

He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.

Lofton will be the MLB...

You're right that Hunter should probably be on the WLB spot as his skill set suggest he's capable of pass coverage . But, he's recovering from an achilles tendon injury - not sure how that's gonna play out...

alleycat_126 · 03-26-2012, 10:50 AM

Too much suspension talk in Ellis case, I think a lot of the Saints players beside Harper, Vilma will get fines and not suspensions, for many of the players even though it would be the worst of first offenses it still would only be the first offense. I would trade Ellis for a 2nd to get a crack at Chandler Jones. Imagine it, ROMEUS, BUNKLEY, JORDAN, JONES front four!!!!!

03-20-2012, 07:21 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	The Saints want Lofton, but his asking price may be higher than what his history and body of work supports... May have to get creative and add some incentive benchmarks that reflect AllPro (not ProBowl) acheivements and special plays (int's, forced fumbles) - but we'd better be careful and not disclose that or Skip Bayless, Mike Florio, and Peter King might become bothered by this disturbing trend of paying based on performance... Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-21-2012, 06:35 AM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... there's for the time being Hawthorne ... There, I fixed it for ya buddy!

03-21-2012, 07:53 AM	#5
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by FinSaint There, I fixed it for ya buddy! Ok, I'll give you an 'assist' on that one, . I am hoping though, that the Lions do go ahead with talking to Hawthorne, they still could use help at LB even with resigning Tulloch. I'm looking for some word on what they did, if anything, but not getting my hopes up too much. Lofton would look good in black/gold though, and it'd be a nice dig at Atlanta, . Everyone might have to start looking to the draft to address linebacker issues, cap space and all.

03-26-2012, 10:25 AM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	I think Jeremiha Hunter played WLB in college if I remember correctly, and I remember reading an evaluation of him that stated that he could make the transition to MLB with relative ease. You have him slated at SLB depth, is that the position you see him possibly playing in Spags' system (i.e. best fit)? I also think that both Humber and Butler might be gone, since they could easily be replaced by UDFAs or lower round draft picks - at least Humber failed to impress me the few times I remember seeing him on the field. A 2nd or 3rd round pick for Ellis would be awesome, but I fear that there won't be anyone stupid enough to give that to the Saints, regardless of whether he gets suspended or not.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

03-26-2012, 08:08 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by FinSaint I think Jeremiha Hunter played WLB in college if I remember correctly, and I remember reading an evaluation of him that stated that he could make the transition to MLB with relative ease. You have him slated at SLB depth, is that the position you see him possibly playing in Spags' system (i.e. best fit)? I also think that both Humber and Butler might be gone, since they could easily be replaced by UDFAs or lower round draft picks - at least Humber failed to impress me the few times I remember seeing him on the field. A 2nd or 3rd round pick for Ellis would be awesome, but I fear that there won't be anyone stupid enough to give that to the Saints, regardless of whether he gets suspended or not. Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there... Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go...

03-20-2012, 04:44 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Broncos re-signed Woodyard, so he is no longer an upgrade option for the Saints' LB corps. Maybe they are giving Chamberlain some consideration, because Spags had him for two years in St. Louis, and then either Lofton or Hawthorne to strengthen the MLB position.

03-21-2012, 06:10 AM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	... there's always Hawthorne ...

03-27-2012, 09:21 AM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there... Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go... I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s). And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy. Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth? I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation. I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps. He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

03-28-2012, 12:40 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by FinSaint I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s). And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy. Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth? I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation. I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps. He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two. Lofton will be the MLB... You're right that Hunter should probably be on the WLB spot as his skill set suggest he's capable of pass coverage . But, he's recovering from an achilles tendon injury - not sure how that's gonna play out...

03-26-2012, 10:50 AM	#10
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Too much suspension talk in Ellis case, I think a lot of the Saints players beside Harper, Vilma will get fines and not suspensions, for many of the players even though it would be the worst of first offenses it still would only be the first offense. I would trade Ellis for a 2nd to get a crack at Chandler Jones. Imagine it, ROMEUS, BUNKLEY, JORDAN, JONES front four!!!!!

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