2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

jeanpierre · 03-27-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

What if Vilma doesn't get a long term suspension and remains with the team? What kind of rotation you think we would try?

What concerns me most about Vilma is this ongoing degenerative bone condition he has...

I'm concerned for the man as a person and his long term health...

Plus, what kinda of snap limitations can he see per game?

Should he move to the OLB spot and aid in pass coverage limiting the physical toll of the run defense?

If his snaps becomes limited or situational, will he redo his contract to reflect same?

And with the uncertainty, how do you game plan to include him when you have the glaring uncertainty that his joints are breaking down?

He wants to play so he can both earn and contribute to the game he obviously loves...

And you got these media jerks beating the drum at Goodell's door each day wanting blood because the Saints dared step up and knock the Vikings out of the playoffs...

And it's a real conumdrum for the franchise as he's been a big part of changing the culture here...

FinSaint · 03-27-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there...

Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go...

I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s).

And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy.

Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth?

I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation.

I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps.

He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.

jeanpierre · 03-28-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s).

And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy.

Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth?

I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation.

I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps.

He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.

Lofton will be the MLB...

You're right that Hunter should probably be on the WLB spot as his skill set suggest he's capable of pass coverage . But, he's recovering from an achilles tendon injury - not sure how that's gonna play out...

jeanpierre · 03-28-2012, 02:12 PM

2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

This is where we are after the latest acquisitions...

Note: Free Agent Signing/Retainer or Acquisition in Bold

WR Marques Colston, Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan
TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Player to be Named
LT Jermon Bushrod
LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen
C Brian De La Puente, Matt Tennant
RG Jahri Evans
RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown
FR Lance Moore, Devery Henderson
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel
FB Jed Collins, Korey Hall
RB Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory

RDE Will Smith, Turk McBride, Greg Romeus
RDT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King
LDT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson
LDE Cam Jordan, Junior Galette
SLB Scott Shanle, Martez Wilson, Will Herring
MLB Jon Vilma, Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber
WLB Chris Chamberlain, Jonathan Casillas
LCB Jabari Greer, Player to be Named
SS Roman Harper; Jonathon Amaya, Player to be Named
FS Malcolm Jenkins; Isa Abdul-Quddus
RCB Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick

P Thomas Morstead
K John Kasay
LS Justin Drescher

Analysis

The linebacker situation looks to be a mess - which we knew that already.

But the LB position should rebound this year

We'll have a better picture once there is resolution to the pending player penalty phase of Bountygate.

Shanle will do better at the SLB position with Spagnuolo; I think Shanle never grasped Williams' defense - though, the opposition sure did.

Not sure we keep that many linebackers.

We still need to sign another cornerback or two.

jeanpierre · 04-04-2012, 07:53 AM

2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

Note: Free Agent Signing/Retainer or Acquisition in Bold

WR Marques Colston, Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan
TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Player to be Named
LT Jermon Bushrod
LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen
C Brian De La Puente, Matt Tennant
RG Jahri Evans
RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown
FR Lance Moore, Devery Henderson
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel
FB Jed Collins, Korey Hall
RB Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory

RDE Will Smith, Turk McBride, Greg Romeus
RDT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King
LDT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson
LDE Cam Jordan, Junior Galette
SLB Scott Shanle, Martez Wilson, Will Herring
MLB Jon Vilma, Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber
WLB Chris Chamberlain, Jonathan Casillas
LCB Jabari Greer, Player to be Named
SS Roman Harper; Jonathon Amaya, Player to be Named
FS Malcolm Jenkins; Isa Abdul-Quddus
RCB Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick

P Thomas Morstead
K John Kasay
LS Justin Drescher

Analysis

The linebacker situation has turned around real fast - interesting to see if it gels.

Do we still have Free Agent DL, especially a DT, that can protect these LineBackers?

What about the offensive line? It's pretty thin...

Speaking of thin, the DB's are thin as well - that's trouble.

Loomis praise will be premature if the big question doesn't get addressed...

l...Will Drew be signed in time to start working with the offense?

FinSaint · 04-04-2012, 08:04 AM

So where do you see Hawthorne fitting in the LB line-up?

Jankman8 · 04-04-2012, 08:42 AM

I love our LB core, but we need some improvements on the Dline to protect our LB and create some pressure!

FinSaint · 04-04-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

I love our LB core, but we need some improvements on the Dline to protect our LB and create some pressure!

I'm not sure if there are any really smart choices available anymore on the FA market which would improve the front 4, I think that the Saints will try to address those needs via the draft.

Danno · 04-04-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm not sure if there are any really smart choices available anymore on the FA market which would improve the front 4, I think that the Saints will try to address those needs via the draft.

And from what I'm reading, this is one of the deepest DL drafts in a long long time.

We can probably still get a DT with a 2nd round grade in the 3rd round.

FinSaint · 04-04-2012, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

And from what I'm reading, this is one of the deepest DL drafts in a long long time.

We can probably still get a DT with a 2nd round grade in the 3rd round.

That's what I'm hoping for... Wolfe and Hicks would be two great pick ups with relatively low risk to potential ratio, in my opinion, the Saints might even be able to "steal" them away with the 4th and the 6th picks respectively.

03-27-2012, 08:00 AM	#71
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by hitta What if Vilma doesn't get a long term suspension and remains with the team? What kind of rotation you think we would try? What concerns me most about Vilma is this ongoing degenerative bone condition he has... I'm concerned for the man as a person and his long term health... Plus, what kinda of snap limitations can he see per game? Should he move to the OLB spot and aid in pass coverage limiting the physical toll of the run defense? If his snaps becomes limited or situational, will he redo his contract to reflect same? And with the uncertainty, how do you game plan to include him when you have the glaring uncertainty that his joints are breaking down? He wants to play so he can both earn and contribute to the game he obviously loves... And you got these media jerks beating the drum at Goodell's door each day wanting blood because the Saints dared step up and knock the Vikings out of the playoffs... And it's a real conumdrum for the franchise as he's been a big part of changing the culture here...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

03-27-2012, 10:21 AM	#72
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Based on what is published and new signings; obviously new additions and/or releases will affect what's there... Propose the depth chart so we can see which way the roster/depth chart could go... I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s). And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy. Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth? I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation. I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps. He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

03-28-2012, 01:40 PM	#73
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by FinSaint I was honestly just curious about how you perceive Jeremiha Hunter and his possible future role(s). And since I remember him exclusively playing in the WLB spot in college, I just wondered what was the reason for you to put him down as a SLB depth guy. Going with what you stated about Vilma and his possible future role as maybe a pass coverage OLB - which I agree with - maybe Hunter could potentially provide also MLB depth? I mention that possibility because of that one evaluation I remember reading some time a go, which stated that Hunter could potentially move to the MLB spot in the NFL, but I haven't been able to find that evaluation to post here, so I guess my recollection could be wrong about the existence of the said evaluation. I'm just very excited about this guy - kind of like I was about Tom Johnson last off-season - and I think he could blossom into a very good LB if he fits into what Spags wants to do with the LB corps. He is my sleeper pick at the moment for the coming season or two. Lofton will be the MLB... You're right that Hunter should probably be on the WLB spot as his skill set suggest he's capable of pass coverage . But, he's recovering from an achilles tendon injury - not sure how that's gonna play out...

03-28-2012, 02:12 PM	#74
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart This is where we are after the latest acquisitions... Note: Free Agent Signing/Retainer or Acquisition in Bold WR Marques Colston, Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Player to be Named LT Jermon Bushrod LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen C Brian De La Puente, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown FR Lance Moore, Devery Henderson QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Jed Collins, Korey Hall RB Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory RDE Will Smith, Turk McBride, Greg Romeus RDT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King LDT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson LDE Cam Jordan, Junior Galette SLB Scott Shanle, Martez Wilson, Will Herring MLB Jon Vilma, Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber WLB Chris Chamberlain, Jonathan Casillas LCB Jabari Greer, Player to be Named SS Roman Harper; Jonathon Amaya, Player to be Named FS Malcolm Jenkins; Isa Abdul-Quddus RCB Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick P Thomas Morstead K John Kasay LS Justin Drescher Analysis The linebacker situation looks to be a mess - which we knew that already. But the LB position should rebound this year We'll have a better picture once there is resolution to the pending player penalty phase of Bountygate. Shanle will do better at the SLB position with Spagnuolo; I think Shanle never grasped Williams' defense - though, the opposition sure did. Not sure we keep that many linebackers. We still need to sign another cornerback or two.
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

04-04-2012, 07:53 AM	#75
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart Note: Free Agent Signing/Retainer or Acquisition in Bold WR Marques Colston, Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Player to be Named LT Jermon Bushrod LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen C Brian De La Puente, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown FR Lance Moore, Devery Henderson QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Jed Collins, Korey Hall RB Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory RDE Will Smith, Turk McBride, Greg Romeus RDT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King LDT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson LDE Cam Jordan, Junior Galette SLB Scott Shanle, Martez Wilson, Will Herring MLB Jon Vilma, Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber WLB Chris Chamberlain, Jonathan Casillas LCB Jabari Greer, Player to be Named SS Roman Harper; Jonathon Amaya, Player to be Named FS Malcolm Jenkins; Isa Abdul-Quddus RCB Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick P Thomas Morstead K John Kasay LS Justin Drescher Analysis The linebacker situation has turned around real fast - interesting to see if it gels. Do we still have Free Agent DL, especially a DT, that can protect these LineBackers? What about the offensive line? It's pretty thin... Speaking of thin, the DB's are thin as well - that's trouble. Loomis praise will be premature if the big question doesn't get addressed... l...Will Drew be signed in time to start working with the offense?
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

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04-04-2012, 08:04 AM	#76
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	So where do you see Hawthorne fitting in the LB line-up?

04-04-2012, 08:42 AM	#77
Jankman8 Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Austria, Europe Posts: 374	I love our LB core, but we need some improvements on the Dline to protect our LB and create some pressure!

04-04-2012, 08:45 AM	#78
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Jankman8 I love our LB core, but we need some improvements on the Dline to protect our LB and create some pressure! I'm not sure if there are any really smart choices available anymore on the FA market which would improve the front 4, I think that the Saints will try to address those needs via the draft.

04-04-2012, 08:54 AM	#79
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm not sure if there are any really smart choices available anymore on the FA market which would improve the front 4, I think that the Saints will try to address those needs via the draft. And from what I'm reading, this is one of the deepest DL drafts in a long long time. We can probably still get a DT with a 2nd round grade in the 3rd round.

04-04-2012, 08:58 AM	#80
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Danno And from what I'm reading, this is one of the deepest DL drafts in a long long time. We can probably still get a DT with a 2nd round grade in the 3rd round. That's what I'm hoping for... Wolfe and Hicks would be two great pick ups with relatively low risk to potential ratio, in my opinion, the Saints might even be able to "steal" them away with the 4th and the 6th picks respectively.

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