Saints to draft a WLB?

rAge · 04-05-2004, 01:10 AM

Listen Skippy, We\'ve all read your posts and quite frankly it appears from both your grammar skills and footbal acumen that you\'re probably a junior high scrub or varsity cheerleader.

What is wrong with my grammar skills? My typing is better than most of the crap you find on the internet.

Many of the folks here I disagree with regularly have displayed more insight and football knowlege than your best post to date.

Ignorance, that explains you. I\'m guessing I pissed you off early and ever since then, you have seen my name attached to a post and automatically ignored everything except for the negative parts...which is what you seem to be dwelling on.

So take your girly game on back to NOLA.com or NOS.com and play with the rest of your middle school hacks

Where? Never heard of either place and I am well removed from junior high. You don\'t see me going around with the \'u r gay\' type that most junior high kids speak.

because it takes a lot more than what you\'ve displayed to hang with the guys in this group

I never came here to \'hang\' with you guys.

Beter yet,

And you talk about my grammar skills? Please...

get your mommy or daddy

\'daddy\' died 7 years ago. You can hate me all you want, I really don\'t care. But there is no need to bring someone\'s family into an argument that has nothing to do with them.

rAge · 04-05-2004, 01:18 AM

Look we cant tackle and havent had a good linebacker in 3 yrs. In the second round Boulware or Leman will be available. Take one. I think the secondary will get better as soon as they have to stop making every tackle and getting banged up

Boulware can\'t tackle either tho. He is exactly like most of the players we already have.

Boogro · 04-05-2004, 08:32 AM

Boulware can\'t tackle either tho. He is exactly like most of the players we already have.

Boulware is 7th all-time on FSU\'s tackle list. I guess that means he can\'t tackle. Not too bad for a career at a big time school such as Florida State eh?

BlackandBlue · 04-05-2004, 09:01 AM

Billy, why you horning in on my \'owned\' pictures?

EDIT:

Lehman is an OLB, and he is not a \'stud\'.

Lehman was an OLB this past season, only because Lance Mitchell went down with a torn ACL. Lehman was supposed to play MLB, until this happened, and he was moved to the outside. I like Lehman for the same reasons you like Jake Grove.
I can\'t believe you compared Lehman to Calmus, Lehman is faster and smarter, and has a better motor and is more aggressive. Calmus was nothing more than a situational linebacker and special teams player. Did you compare the two because they are white linebackers that played for the same college, and roughly have the same build?

Boulware is 7th all-time on FSU\'s tackle list. I guess that means he can\'t tackle. Not too bad for a career at a big time school such as Florida State eh?

Boss Bailey was the same way at Georgia, by leading the team in tackles. But his open field tackling was horrible. He made up for it with speed, just like Boulware.

[Edited on 5/4/2004 by BlackandBlue]

Danno · 04-05-2004, 10:14 AM

Wow, a dissenting opinion followed by insight, knowledge and no name calling!
We could use a lot more of that.
I hope some of our underAge members take notice...

[Edited on 5/4/2004 by Danno]

JimBone · 04-05-2004, 01:38 PM

Well, if most of the people on this site are just relaying something that they heard on ESPN, wouldnt you pay a bit more attention to it since the source has some validity to it? I think I pretty much believe what i hear on ESPN and yes, i like to come up with some stuff from time to time just to spark a debate...but the question on my mind is this...
Where are you getting your info from if it isnt from the media? Because if you have all these in depth reports on pretty much every player and it all comes from your little ole head...well then who the hell are you and why should we think you know what the hell you are talking about? You could be some retard nut job runnin around the nuthouse ass-naked and playin on someone\'s computer....I am not saying you are but it is still a possibility. I just dont know what gives you credibility around here since you refuse to get info from the media unlike all the rest of us.

BlackandBlue · 04-05-2004, 01:47 PM

why should we think you know what the hell you are talking about?

Cause Stone Cold said so???

Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. Everyone has opinions, and I don\'t care what you say, some of your opinions are based on info you receive second hand. Example: I watched one Purdue game this past year. I walked away from that game extremely impressed with what I saw of Schweigert, I thought he was a real player. Come to find out, he takes really bad angles on the ball carrier (tidbit of info I couldn\'t have known, because the majority of the time, you don\'t even see him when the ball is snapped- ie. limited camera vision). Now, I\'m no Jesus, so there\'s no way I can be at the games and judge for myself.

jason_vise · 04-05-2004, 04:16 PM

The problem with the Saints is we never draft playmakers, we draft potential. Duece Mcallister is a playmaker. Alex Molden had potential. See how it works. Boulware is a playmaker, always has and always will be. Champ Bailey is a playmaker also. But I\'d still take Strait as the best corner. Stoops coached him and he plays hard. Watch the sugar bowl DVD from lsusports.net.

Danno · 04-05-2004, 04:46 PM

2003-Sullivan, Stinchcomb, Cie Grant, and Holland were all very good playmakers at their positions. Grant was a playmaker at several different positions.
2002-Charles Grant, Bentley, Craver, and Mitchell were all great playmakers in college. Stallworth and Allen were the only two IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢d consider as potential over production. And Allen was quite dominant in College
2001- Only year IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢d agree with you. Deuce and Norris were playmakers at their positions but K.Smith and Hodge were probably more potential over production.

I think we get a bad rap about drafting potential over production, strickly because of Stallworth.

Boogro · 04-05-2004, 05:32 PM

The thing with Stallworth is that nowadays people not only draft on potential, but they figure what kind of an upside a player had. Coming out Stallworth had all the tools the Saints were looking for in a guy. We had just sighned an oft-injured Pathon in FA and we had Horn which everyone knows what he has been doing. So looking back, we didn\'t have much at wideout when the draft approached. I remember sources saying that Haslett was jumping up and down almost after Stallworth ran. He was good sized, fast as hell, caught ball well with his hands and some said one of the best blocking wideouts in college football that year. If Stallworth wouldn\'t have gotten hurt his rookie year, he would have put up big numbers. He did have quite a few TD\'s and had some game winners as I recall. People were glad to see that we drafted a guy like Stallworth when he was doing great. When the injury bug hit, people jumped off the bandwagon quick and I am still on it. I know he did had an off year last year, but we all seen what he is capable of. He even went to a stretching coach last off-season to try to help his hammies out. Even though it didn\'t help much, it showed he made an effort to better hisself and I bet he is doing the same this offseason, trying to better himself. That\'s what I like about the guy. It\'s just an OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-05-2004, 01:10 AM	#21
rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	Saints to draft a WLB? Listen Skippy, We\'ve all read your posts and quite frankly it appears from both your grammar skills and footbal acumen that you\'re probably a junior high scrub or varsity cheerleader. What is wrong with my grammar skills? My typing is better than most of the crap you find on the internet. Many of the folks here I disagree with regularly have displayed more insight and football knowlege than your best post to date. Ignorance, that explains you. I\'m guessing I pissed you off early and ever since then, you have seen my name attached to a post and automatically ignored everything except for the negative parts...which is what you seem to be dwelling on. So take your girly game on back to NOLA.com or NOS.com and play with the rest of your middle school hacks Where? Never heard of either place and I am well removed from junior high. You don\'t see me going around with the \'u r gay\' type that most junior high kids speak. because it takes a lot more than what you\'ve displayed to hang with the guys in this group I never came here to \'hang\' with you guys. Beter yet, And you talk about my grammar skills? Please... get your mommy or daddy \'daddy\' died 7 years ago. You can hate me all you want, I really don\'t care. But there is no need to bring someone\'s family into an argument that has nothing to do with them.
rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	http://www.cutandpastescripts.com/cg...=forgottenrage

04-05-2004, 01:18 AM	#22
rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	Saints to draft a WLB? Look we cant tackle and havent had a good linebacker in 3 yrs. In the second round Boulware or Leman will be available. Take one. I think the secondary will get better as soon as they have to stop making every tackle and getting banged up Boulware can\'t tackle either tho. He is exactly like most of the players we already have.
rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320

04-05-2004, 08:32 AM	#23
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Saints to draft a WLB? Boulware can\'t tackle either tho. He is exactly like most of the players we already have. Boulware is 7th all-time on FSU\'s tackle list. I guess that means he can\'t tackle. Not too bad for a career at a big time school such as Florida State eh?

04-05-2004, 09:01 AM	#24
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Saints to draft a WLB? Billy, why you horning in on my \'owned\' pictures? EDIT: Lehman is an OLB, and he is not a \'stud\'. Lehman was an OLB this past season, only because Lance Mitchell went down with a torn ACL. Lehman was supposed to play MLB, until this happened, and he was moved to the outside. I like Lehman for the same reasons you like Jake Grove. I can\'t believe you compared Lehman to Calmus, Lehman is faster and smarter, and has a better motor and is more aggressive. Calmus was nothing more than a situational linebacker and special teams player. Did you compare the two because they are white linebackers that played for the same college, and roughly have the same build? Boulware is 7th all-time on FSU\'s tackle list. I guess that means he can\'t tackle. Not too bad for a career at a big time school such as Florida State eh? Boss Bailey was the same way at Georgia, by leading the team in tackles. But his open field tackling was horrible. He made up for it with speed, just like Boulware. [Edited on 5/4/2004 by BlackandBlue]
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

04-05-2004, 10:14 AM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Saints to draft a WLB? Wow, a dissenting opinion followed by insight, knowledge and no name calling! We could use a lot more of that. I hope some of our underAge members take notice... [Edited on 5/4/2004 by Danno]

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04-05-2004, 01:38 PM	#26
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	Saints to draft a WLB? Well, if most of the people on this site are just relaying something that they heard on ESPN, wouldnt you pay a bit more attention to it since the source has some validity to it? I think I pretty much believe what i hear on ESPN and yes, i like to come up with some stuff from time to time just to spark a debate...but the question on my mind is this... Where are you getting your info from if it isnt from the media? Because if you have all these in depth reports on pretty much every player and it all comes from your little ole head...well then who the hell are you and why should we think you know what the hell you are talking about? You could be some retard nut job runnin around the nuthouse ass-naked and playin on someone\'s computer....I am not saying you are but it is still a possibility. I just dont know what gives you credibility around here since you refuse to get info from the media unlike all the rest of us.
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04-05-2004, 01:47 PM	#27
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Saints to draft a WLB? why should we think you know what the hell you are talking about? Cause Stone Cold said so??? Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. Everyone has opinions, and I don\'t care what you say, some of your opinions are based on info you receive second hand. Example: I watched one Purdue game this past year. I walked away from that game extremely impressed with what I saw of Schweigert, I thought he was a real player. Come to find out, he takes really bad angles on the ball carrier (tidbit of info I couldn\'t have known, because the majority of the time, you don\'t even see him when the ball is snapped- ie. limited camera vision). Now, I\'m no Jesus, so there\'s no way I can be at the games and judge for myself.
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

04-05-2004, 04:16 PM	#28
jason_vise Rookie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5	Saints to draft a WLB? The problem with the Saints is we never draft playmakers, we draft potential. Duece Mcallister is a playmaker. Alex Molden had potential. See how it works. Boulware is a playmaker, always has and always will be. Champ Bailey is a playmaker also. But I\'d still take Strait as the best corner. Stoops coached him and he plays hard. Watch the sugar bowl DVD from lsusports.net.
jason_vise Rookie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5

04-05-2004, 04:46 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Saints to draft a WLB? 2003-Sullivan, Stinchcomb, Cie Grant, and Holland were all very good playmakers at their positions. Grant was a playmaker at several different positions. 2002-Charles Grant, Bentley, Craver, and Mitchell were all great playmakers in college. Stallworth and Allen were the only two IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢d consider as potential over production. And Allen was quite dominant in College 2001- Only year IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢d agree with you. Deuce and Norris were playmakers at their positions but K.Smith and Hodge were probably more potential over production. I think we get a bad rap about drafting potential over production, strickly because of Stallworth.

04-05-2004, 05:32 PM	#30
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Saints to draft a WLB? The thing with Stallworth is that nowadays people not only draft on potential, but they figure what kind of an upside a player had. Coming out Stallworth had all the tools the Saints were looking for in a guy. We had just sighned an oft-injured Pathon in FA and we had Horn which everyone knows what he has been doing. So looking back, we didn\'t have much at wideout when the draft approached. I remember sources saying that Haslett was jumping up and down almost after Stallworth ran. He was good sized, fast as hell, caught ball well with his hands and some said one of the best blocking wideouts in college football that year. If Stallworth wouldn\'t have gotten hurt his rookie year, he would have put up big numbers. He did have quite a few TD\'s and had some game winners as I recall. People were glad to see that we drafted a guy like Stallworth when he was doing great. When the injury bug hit, people jumped off the bandwagon quick and I am still on it. I know he did had an off year last year, but we all seen what he is capable of. He even went to a stretching coach last off-season to try to help his hammies out. Even though it didn\'t help much, it showed he made an effort to better hisself and I bet he is doing the same this offseason, trying to better himself. That\'s what I like about the guy. It\'s just an OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!