Why did brees turn down the contract we offered him?

vpheughan · 03-04-2012, 10:11 PM

Que Pink Floyd "MONEY. it's a *****............"

hagan714 · 03-04-2012, 10:28 PM

Might be worse. sack totals rise and Bress maybe carted of the field because he was gunned for. oppps there is the bounty ideology thing again. remember the best way to get to Drew is up the middle not off the ends.

besides we should get a nice comp pick for the players we are about to say goodbye too.

FinSaint · 03-04-2012, 10:44 PM

That depends on who the Saints can sign to replace them from the FA pool, whether or not Roger Rabbit decides to take away any potential comp picks.

Mardigras9 · 03-05-2012, 09:54 AM

Unbelievable that they could not get a deal done.

SmashMouth · 03-05-2012, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Ok, let's look at the tag another way. I'm not sure exactly how the amout applied to salary caps works but I would assume with the tag at say 14.5 million all of that would apply to the cap since it is a one year deal. How much of a 90 or 100 million deal would count against the cap this year? Maybe Drew will accept the tag to allow enough cap space to sign the other guys. What do you guys think?

That's the right answer here, IMHO. This leaves us with cap space to resign Nicks. Colston can go as $7 million for him is a bit much. Brees makes WR's look better than they really are.

darstep · 03-05-2012, 12:29 PM

Remember when $450,000 was a lot of money?
It's raining cats, dogs, squirrels, & monkeys...what else is waiting in the wings this year?
I believe the tag helps this years cap, but the long deal is going to leave us thin.
Restructuring and cuts will have to be made and next year has no real advantage.
Once success shows up, the players that bring that success will demand their rewards.
No team has enough money to reward everybody. We are no different.
Brees deserves his money; he's earned it. Everybody else look out for yourself.
Things should level out once all the teams get up to the cap/minimum salary range.
Teams like KC will be able to buy a whole new look.
All the rest will have to pick through the scraps to see what their remaining dollars will buy.

Srgt. Hulka · 03-05-2012, 04:22 PM

I've been telling you guys for weeks and I kept getting called chicken little, Drew is a Family man first, a union man second and a team member third. He is going to do what is best for his family first...period, what's best for the union second, and what's best for the team third. He's already a hall of famer. He has damn near every record that can be set by a quarterback. What's next? A big ass pay-day, that's what. Don't get me wrong, I love Drew Brees, and I hope he stays in New Orleans forever, but he didn't dream of playing in the NFL his whole life so he could play in the NFL. He dreamed of playing in the NFL his whole life so he could get rich, just like every other player in the NFL. It's time to pay up.

FinSaint · 03-05-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

Remember when $450,000 was a lot of money?
It's raining cats, dogs, squirrels, & monkeys...what else is waiting in the wings this year?
I believe the tag helps this years cap, but the long deal is going to leave us thin.
Restructuring and cuts will have to be made and next year has no real advantage.
Once success shows up, the players that bring that success will demand their rewards.
No team has enough money to reward everybody. We are no different.
Brees deserves his money; he's earned it. Everybody else look out for yourself.
Things should level out once all the teams get up to the cap/minimum salary range.
Teams like KC will be able to buy a whole new look.
All the rest will have to pick through the scraps to see what their remaining dollars will buy.

And that is basically what the salary cap is for - to keep the whole league fairly competitive among all 32 teams.

Since successful teams can't hold on to all of their star players - draft picks, UDFAs and evaluation of potential FA signings becomes more important. A team doesn't need to sign the highest payed FA in a given position, just the FA who provides the most value and fits the team's system. This is where the Patriots and BB have and will continue to be successful, and where Loomis has also shown his abilities.

The fact that the new CBA brought down the draft pick salaries, especially for the 1st round picks, will help teams to concentrate more on building their success through the draft.

03-04-2012, 10:11 PM	#21
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03-05-2012, 09:59 AM	#25
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Ok, let's look at the tag another way. I'm not sure exactly how the amout applied to salary caps works but I would assume with the tag at say 14.5 million all of that would apply to the cap since it is a one year deal. How much of a 90 or 100 million deal would count against the cap this year? Maybe Drew will accept the tag to allow enough cap space to sign the other guys. What do you guys think? That's the right answer here, IMHO. This leaves us with cap space to resign Nicks. Colston can go as $7 million for him is a bit much. Brees makes WR's look better than they really are.

03-05-2012, 12:29 PM	#26
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Remember when $450,000 was a lot of money? It's raining cats, dogs, squirrels, & monkeys...what else is waiting in the wings this year? I believe the tag helps this years cap, but the long deal is going to leave us thin. Restructuring and cuts will have to be made and next year has no real advantage. Once success shows up, the players that bring that success will demand their rewards. No team has enough money to reward everybody. We are no different. Brees deserves his money; he's earned it. Everybody else look out for yourself. Things should level out once all the teams get up to the cap/minimum salary range. Teams like KC will be able to buy a whole new look. All the rest will have to pick through the scraps to see what their remaining dollars will buy.
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03-05-2012, 04:22 PM	#27
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	I've been telling you guys for weeks and I kept getting called chicken little, Drew is a Family man first, a union man second and a team member third. He is going to do what is best for his family first...period, what's best for the union second, and what's best for the team third. He's already a hall of famer. He has damn near every record that can be set by a quarterback. What's next? A big ass pay-day, that's what. Don't get me wrong, I love Drew Brees, and I hope he stays in New Orleans forever, but he didn't dream of playing in the NFL his whole life so he could play in the NFL. He dreamed of playing in the NFL his whole life so he could get rich, just like every other player in the NFL. It's time to pay up. Kryptonite likes this.
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03-05-2012, 05:43 PM	#28
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by darstep Remember when $450,000 was a lot of money? It's raining cats, dogs, squirrels, & monkeys...what else is waiting in the wings this year? I believe the tag helps this years cap, but the long deal is going to leave us thin. Restructuring and cuts will have to be made and next year has no real advantage. Once success shows up, the players that bring that success will demand their rewards. No team has enough money to reward everybody. We are no different. Brees deserves his money; he's earned it. Everybody else look out for yourself. Things should level out once all the teams get up to the cap/minimum salary range. Teams like KC will be able to buy a whole new look. All the rest will have to pick through the scraps to see what their remaining dollars will buy. And that is basically what the salary cap is for - to keep the whole league fairly competitive among all 32 teams. Since successful teams can't hold on to all of their star players - draft picks, UDFAs and evaluation of potential FA signings becomes more important. A team doesn't need to sign the highest payed FA in a given position, just the FA who provides the most value and fits the team's system. This is where the Patriots and BB have and will continue to be successful, and where Loomis has also shown his abilities. The fact that the new CBA brought down the draft pick salaries, especially for the 1st round picks, will help teams to concentrate more on building their success through the draft.
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03-04-2012, 10:28 PM	#22
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Might be worse. sack totals rise and Bress maybe carted of the field because he was gunned for. oppps there is the bounty ideology thing again. remember the best way to get to Drew is up the middle not off the ends. besides we should get a nice comp pick for the players we are about to say goodbye too.

03-04-2012, 10:44 PM	#23
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	That depends on who the Saints can sign to replace them from the FA pool, whether or not Roger Rabbit decides to take away any potential comp picks.

03-05-2012, 09:54 AM	#24
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Unbelievable that they could not get a deal done.

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