Moss to visit Saints(update pg.7)

BGWhoDat · 03-09-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Irvin, Brown, & Reed never put up the numbers Moss has. Neither did Largent. That's just a dumb argument. Fact is....only Jerry Rice holds trump over Moss as a wide receiver, and he played in his forties. If you really believe Moss is not 1st ballot material, you're fooling yourself or you don't know football! Even Michael Irvin himself said Moss should be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer & that compared to Rice & himself who always had great QB's......Moss played for average QB's at best most of his career. Stop hating on the guy!!!

I'm not hating on Moss I simply said he isn't first ballot. To say I don't know football - there's no reason to disrespect someone like that because they simply don't agree with your opinion.

A lot of his issues the past couple seasons with half assing routes, his character problems and such, will hurt him.

Moss is a second ballot WR in my due to the fact of the issues I've stated and there only being two first ballot WR's since 1970. The odds aren't in his favor.

In no way did I say his numbers weren't impressive or first ballot worthy, nor did I say he wasn't credible. I'm aware of the QBs he has played with.

There's no need to say I'm fooling myself or don't know football. Relax buddy.

gandhi1007 · 03-09-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by BGWhoDat

I'm not hating on Moss I simply said he isn't first ballot. To say I don't know football - there's no reason to disrespect someone like that because they simply don't agree with your opinion.

A lot of his issues the past couple seasons with half assing routes, his character problems and such, will hurt him.

Moss is a second ballot WR in my due to the fact of the issues I've stated and there only being two first ballot WR's since 1970. The odds aren't in his favor.

In no way did I say his numbers weren't impressive or first ballot worthy, nor did I say he wasn't credible. I'm aware of the QBs he has played with.

There's no need to say I'm fooling myself or don't know football. Relax buddy.

No one was trying to disrespect you. When a guy already has numbers such as that (2nd best WR numbers all time) & he's obviously not done. Why on earth would he not be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Off the field issues? No ring? That's like saying Ray Lewis won't be 1st ballot because he was investigated for a murder or Marino shouldn't have been 1st ballot because he didn't get a ring. It doesn't make sense. I know WR's are generally overlooked by voters, but this guy dominated the league for over a decade.

BGWhoDat · 03-09-2012, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No one was trying to disrespect you. When a guy already has numbers such as that (2nd best WR numbers all time) & he's obviously not done. Why on earth would he not be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Off the field issues? No ring? That's like saying Ray Lewis won't be 1st ballot because he was investigated for a murder or Marino shouldn't have been 1st ballot because he didn't get a ring. It doesn't make sense. I know WR's are generally overlooked by voters, but this guy dominated the league for over a decade.

Hall of Fame voters are picky. I just believe personally between his character issues and how his reputation has been through his whole career (half assing routes is nothing new), it may hurt him even with the numbers. I don't have a vote and if I did, I'd vote him in first ballot. I just don't think they'll do it. If he does, congrats to him, he deserves it.

As far as your report, I'm telling you that WWL, NBC Sports, and numerous media outlets have confirmed he did not run the 40.

I even confirmed it myself with the Times-Picayune and Jay Glazer.

Moss didn

Every single rumor about the 40 being ran is directed to SportsNOLA.com No idea who their source was, but I believe PFT more than that website, considering they actually have more sources being a national media place.

Furthermore as I have stated, the time they said he ran is the exact rumored time that was said he ran before the work out.

Trust me on this one, I wouldn't downplay him.

SapperSaint · 03-09-2012, 10:08 AM

Speaking of HoF

There are some great WR that are not in the HoF yet.

Andre Reed, Tim Brown and Chris Carter

RaginCajun83 · 03-09-2012, 10:09 AM

Screw his stats ... i don't want this cancer, "me first" player on the Saints

RaginCajun83 · 03-09-2012, 10:09 AM

Cris Cater isn't in due to politics

gandhi1007 · 03-09-2012, 06:51 PM

Story on Moss's forty time in Metarie:

NFL.com news: Moss 'looked like the old Randy' during workout with Saints

CharityMike · 03-09-2012, 07:52 PM

One good reason he won't be in the HOF ANY time soon....The people voting have been doing it for years and how many receivers been inducted in the last 20 years?

gandhi1007 · 03-09-2012, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

One good reason he won't be in the HOF ANY time soon....The people voting have been doing it for years and how many receivers been inducted in the last 20 years?

Again.......How many have put up Moss's numbers???

CharityMike · 03-09-2012, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Again.......How many have put up Moss's numbers???

Believe me bro..I have fully gotten your point on all of this. All I meant was, as long as the old crusty effr's like Peter King are still voting, he don't have a prayer.

03-09-2012, 09:25 AM	#1
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Irvin, Brown, & Reed never put up the numbers Moss has. Neither did Largent. That's just a dumb argument. Fact is....only Jerry Rice holds trump over Moss as a wide receiver, and he played in his forties. If you really believe Moss is not 1st ballot material, you're fooling yourself or you don't know football! Even Michael Irvin himself said Moss should be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer & that compared to Rice & himself who always had great QB's......Moss played for average QB's at best most of his career. Stop hating on the guy!!! I'm not hating on Moss I simply said he isn't first ballot. To say I don't know football - there's no reason to disrespect someone like that because they simply don't agree with your opinion. A lot of his issues the past couple seasons with half assing routes, his character problems and such, will hurt him. Moss is a second ballot WR in my due to the fact of the issues I've stated and there only being two first ballot WR's since 1970. The odds aren't in his favor. In no way did I say his numbers weren't impressive or first ballot worthy, nor did I say he wasn't credible. I'm aware of the QBs he has played with. There's no need to say I'm fooling myself or don't know football. Relax buddy.
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03-09-2012, 06:58 PM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by BGWhoDat I'm not hating on Moss I simply said he isn't first ballot. To say I don't know football - there's no reason to disrespect someone like that because they simply don't agree with your opinion. A lot of his issues the past couple seasons with half assing routes, his character problems and such, will hurt him. Moss is a second ballot WR in my due to the fact of the issues I've stated and there only being two first ballot WR's since 1970. The odds aren't in his favor. In no way did I say his numbers weren't impressive or first ballot worthy, nor did I say he wasn't credible. I'm aware of the QBs he has played with. There's no need to say I'm fooling myself or don't know football. Relax buddy. No one was trying to disrespect you. When a guy already has numbers such as that (2nd best WR numbers all time) & he's obviously not done. Why on earth would he not be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Off the field issues? No ring? That's like saying Ray Lewis won't be 1st ballot because he was investigated for a murder or Marino shouldn't have been 1st ballot because he didn't get a ring. It doesn't make sense. I know WR's are generally overlooked by voters, but this guy dominated the league for over a decade.
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03-09-2012, 07:33 PM	#3
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No one was trying to disrespect you. When a guy already has numbers such as that (2nd best WR numbers all time) & he's obviously not done. Why on earth would he not be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Off the field issues? No ring? That's like saying Ray Lewis won't be 1st ballot because he was investigated for a murder or Marino shouldn't have been 1st ballot because he didn't get a ring. It doesn't make sense. I know WR's are generally overlooked by voters, but this guy dominated the league for over a decade. Hall of Fame voters are picky. I just believe personally between his character issues and how his reputation has been through his whole career (half assing routes is nothing new), it may hurt him even with the numbers. I don't have a vote and if I did, I'd vote him in first ballot. I just don't think they'll do it. If he does, congrats to him, he deserves it. As far as your report, I'm telling you that WWL, NBC Sports, and numerous media outlets have confirmed he did not run the 40. I even confirmed it myself with the Times-Picayune and Jay Glazer. Moss didn Every single rumor about the 40 being ran is directed to SportsNOLA.com No idea who their source was, but I believe PFT more than that website, considering they actually have more sources being a national media place. Furthermore as I have stated, the time they said he ran is the exact rumored time that was said he ran before the work out. Trust me on this one, I wouldn't downplay him.
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03-09-2012, 07:52 PM	#8
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	One good reason he won't be in the HOF ANY time soon....The people voting have been doing it for years and how many receivers been inducted in the last 20 years? BGWhoDat likes this.

03-09-2012, 08:21 PM	#9
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by CharityMike One good reason he won't be in the HOF ANY time soon....The people voting have been doing it for years and how many receivers been inducted in the last 20 years? Again.......How many have put up Moss's numbers???

03-09-2012, 10:08 AM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Speaking of HoF There are some great WR that are not in the HoF yet. Andre Reed, Tim Brown and Chris Carter

03-09-2012, 10:09 AM	#5
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Screw his stats ... i don't want this cancer, "me first" player on the Saints

03-09-2012, 06:51 PM	#7
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Story on Moss's forty time in Metarie: NFL.com news: Moss 'looked like the old Randy' during workout with Saints

03-09-2012, 08:35 PM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Again.......How many have put up Moss's numbers??? Believe me bro..I have fully gotten your point on all of this. All I meant was, as long as the old crusty effr's like Peter King are still voting, he don't have a prayer.

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