Moss to visit Saints(update pg.7)

alexonfyre · 03-08-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I think this will be a good pick up... as long long as he leaves the diva at the door. And if the money is right.

That's like saying buying a 250 year-old French Quarter townhome is a good buy so long as it has no structural problems and you can pay less than $250,000 for it.

If that's what you want, get it, but don't expect unreasonable things.

SapperSaint · 03-08-2012, 11:16 AM

true.

I just trying to get rid of all my "negative waves" and think positive.

alexonfyre · 03-08-2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

true.

I just trying to get rid of all my "negative waves" and think positive.

You have a point, I need to try a little more of that before I go postal.

fhotard · 03-08-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

true.

I just trying to get rid of all my "negative waves" and think positive.

negative waves...

Negative waves - YouTube

SloMotion · 03-08-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

You have a point, I need to try a little more of that before I go postal.

'Goos-fraba' seems to have a calming affect and has been working for me lately,

gandhi1007 · 03-08-2012, 07:07 PM

Moss is a human being. He's been through the ringer for the last 3-4 years because of his antics. The last full season anyone saw this guy play, he set & still holds the NFL records. There is not an NFL CB that can cover this guy when he's giving effort. I think this is an oppurtunity for Moss to get redemption for his past. I say go with it if he's cheap. I think he wants to change his appearance in the public eye & show what caliber of an athlete he still is. Besides......do you really think Meachem or Devery are even in the same hemisphere of Moss? If you do, you are kidding yourself. Mr. Loomis, get Brees this weapon.....even if only for one year.

Danno · 03-08-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Moss is a human being. He's been through the ringer for the last 3-4 years because of his antics. The last full season anyone saw this guy play, he set & still holds the NFL records. There is not an NFL CB that can cover this guy when he's giving effort. I think this is an oppurtunity for Moss to get redemption for his past. I say go with it if he's cheap. I think he wants to change his appearance in the public eye & show what caliber of an athlete he still is. Besides......do you really think Meachem or Devery are even in the same hemisphere of Moss? If you do, you are kidding yourself. Mr. Loomis, get Brees this weapon.....even if only for one year.

Well I think the question here is "is this that Randy Moss?"

My gut says the 2012 version of Moss is a shadow of his former self.

Just because he was great 3 or 4 years ago doesn't mean he still is now.

If he's still what we saw in 2010, then YES, Meachem and Henderson are definitely better options than Randy Moss, no doubt about it.

gandhi1007 · 03-08-2012, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well I think the question here is "is this that Randy Moss?"

My gut says the 2012 version of Moss is a shadow of his former self.

Just because he was great 3 or 4 years ago doesn't mean he still is now.

If he's still what we saw in 2010, then YES, Meachem and Henderson are definitely better options than Randy Moss, no doubt about it.

"4.39 to 4.42 forty time", "ran precise routes", "caught everything thrown his way", "looked physically in great shape", "wowed everyone there". Now.....I'd say that sounds like the old Randy. That said, Randy Moss on his worst day is still a better WR than Meachem or Devery on their best days. That's fact.....even at 35! That said......he's cheap, has excellent hands, is 6'4", & is fast. Oh yeah.....he's also one of the best WR's of all time. Why not take a shot at him? If he shows signs of "prima donna" behavior, you simply cut him.....end of story. It's not like you broke the bank for him.

Also.....I know people will probably break out the pitchforks on this, but he also doesn't drop catchable balls, like Colston. I love Colston, but truth is truth. Look at it this way.......Marques Colston for $8-9 million/yr. or Randy Moss for $1 million/ year. Uhmmm.......I'll take Randy & use the leftover money on defense where we really need it.

Danno · 03-08-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

"That said, Randy Moss on his worst day is still a better WR than Meachem or Devery on their best days. That's fact.....even at 35!

I honestly could not disagree more with this statement.

You and I frequently agree, but we are polar opposites on this one my friend.

gandhi1007 · 03-08-2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I honestly could not disagree more with this statement.

You and I frequently agree, but we are polar opposites on this one my friend.

I'll make it simple...... neither Devery or Meachem have had a 1,000 yd. receiving season in their entire careers. Neither have had a double digit TD season either. Moss, on the other hand, has averaged over 1,100 yds. a season & nearly 12 TD's a season for the past 13 years. That's also averaging his 2006 & 2010 seasons where he didn't put up any stats.

People can hate the guy all they want, but the fact remains......Randy Moss is one of the most prolific WR's of all time. Take that into account, the fact that he is so hungry for a ring, & the fact that he physically "still has it." You may disagree for personal reasons or whatever, but there is no doubt that Moss is a better player than Meachem or Henderson on any given day.

P.S. - Randy's worst season is on par with either Devery or Meachem's career averages.

03-08-2012, 11:05 AM	#81
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by SapperSaint I think this will be a good pick up... as long long as he leaves the diva at the door. And if the money is right. That's like saying buying a 250 year-old French Quarter townhome is a good buy so long as it has no structural problems and you can pay less than $250,000 for it. If that's what you want, get it, but don't expect unreasonable things.

03-08-2012, 11:28 AM	#83
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by SapperSaint true. I just trying to get rid of all my "negative waves" and think positive. You have a point, I need to try a little more of that before I go postal.

03-08-2012, 05:29 PM	#85
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by alexonfyre You have a point, I need to try a little more of that before I go postal. 'Goos-fraba' seems to have a calming affect and has been working for me lately,

03-08-2012, 07:07 PM	#86
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Moss is a human being. He's been through the ringer for the last 3-4 years because of his antics. The last full season anyone saw this guy play, he set & still holds the NFL records. There is not an NFL CB that can cover this guy when he's giving effort. I think this is an oppurtunity for Moss to get redemption for his past. I say go with it if he's cheap. I think he wants to change his appearance in the public eye & show what caliber of an athlete he still is. Besides......do you really think Meachem or Devery are even in the same hemisphere of Moss? If you do, you are kidding yourself. Mr. Loomis, get Brees this weapon.....even if only for one year.
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03-08-2012, 07:29 PM	#87
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Moss is a human being. He's been through the ringer for the last 3-4 years because of his antics. The last full season anyone saw this guy play, he set & still holds the NFL records. There is not an NFL CB that can cover this guy when he's giving effort. I think this is an oppurtunity for Moss to get redemption for his past. I say go with it if he's cheap. I think he wants to change his appearance in the public eye & show what caliber of an athlete he still is. Besides......do you really think Meachem or Devery are even in the same hemisphere of Moss? If you do, you are kidding yourself. Mr. Loomis, get Brees this weapon.....even if only for one year. Well I think the question here is "is this that Randy Moss?" My gut says the 2012 version of Moss is a shadow of his former self. Just because he was great 3 or 4 years ago doesn't mean he still is now. If he's still what we saw in 2010, then YES, Meachem and Henderson are definitely better options than Randy Moss, no doubt about it.

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03-08-2012, 11:16 AM	#82
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	true. I just trying to get rid of all my "negative waves" and think positive.

03-08-2012, 07:45 PM	#88
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by Danno Well I think the question here is "is this that Randy Moss?" My gut says the 2012 version of Moss is a shadow of his former self. Just because he was great 3 or 4 years ago doesn't mean he still is now. If he's still what we saw in 2010, then YES, Meachem and Henderson are definitely better options than Randy Moss, no doubt about it. "4.39 to 4.42 forty time", "ran precise routes", "caught everything thrown his way", "looked physically in great shape", "wowed everyone there". Now.....I'd say that sounds like the old Randy. That said, Randy Moss on his worst day is still a better WR than Meachem or Devery on their best days. That's fact.....even at 35! That said......he's cheap, has excellent hands, is 6'4", & is fast. Oh yeah.....he's also one of the best WR's of all time. Why not take a shot at him? If he shows signs of "prima donna" behavior, you simply cut him.....end of story. It's not like you broke the bank for him. Also.....I know people will probably break out the pitchforks on this, but he also doesn't drop catchable balls, like Colston. I love Colston, but truth is truth. Look at it this way.......Marques Colston for $8-9 million/yr. or Randy Moss for $1 million/ year. Uhmmm.......I'll take Randy & use the leftover money on defense where we really need it.
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03-08-2012, 07:50 PM	#89
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 "That said, Randy Moss on his worst day is still a better WR than Meachem or Devery on their best days. That's fact.....even at 35! I honestly could not disagree more with this statement. You and I frequently agree, but we are polar opposites on this one my friend.

03-08-2012, 08:18 PM	#90
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by Danno I honestly could not disagree more with this statement. You and I frequently agree, but we are polar opposites on this one my friend. I'll make it simple...... neither Devery or Meachem have had a 1,000 yd. receiving season in their entire careers. Neither have had a double digit TD season either. Moss, on the other hand, has averaged over 1,100 yds. a season & nearly 12 TD's a season for the past 13 years. That's also averaging his 2006 & 2010 seasons where he didn't put up any stats. People can hate the guy all they want, but the fact remains......Randy Moss is one of the most prolific WR's of all time. Take that into account, the fact that he is so hungry for a ring, & the fact that he physically "still has it." You may disagree for personal reasons or whatever, but there is no doubt that Moss is a better player than Meachem or Henderson on any given day. P.S. - Randy's worst season is on par with either Devery or Meachem's career averages.
	http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...gs/12-3006.jpg ______________________________ KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE! -G.I. Joe

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