Sign Peyton Manning

Mardigras9 · 03-07-2012, 12:59 PM

Drew is our QB.

SapperSaint · 03-07-2012, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Drew is our QB.

I disagree.

Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is.

Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap.

Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks!

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I disagree.

Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is.

Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap.

Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks!

Why do you refuse to see that this is not Brees making this call? Condon put that number out there because that is what Manning's deal was. The overall Manning deal is slightly less than what Condon wants for Brees, an average of $18+ million per year. The key hold up is that Condon demanded $24 million per year for the first three years because Manning got $23 million. He knew that the Saints don't have the cap room to cover that right now and stay viable. He knew they'd have to tag Brees and let his other client, Carl Nicks go to the open market. Now that the deed is done watch for a more cap friendly version of the deal to get done for the same overall number.

Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show.

alexonfyre · 03-07-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show.

This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off.
Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone:
Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later."

Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done.
This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off.
Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone:
Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later."

Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done.
This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ

Thanks, Alex. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get this point across to many of these people.

03-07-2012, 01:08 PM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Drew is our QB. I disagree. Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is. Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap. Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks! Crusader, FinSaint, CharityMike and 1 others like this.
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03-07-2012, 04:02 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,787	Originally Posted by SapperSaint I disagree. Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is. Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap. Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks! Why do you refuse to see that this is not Brees making this call? Condon put that number out there because that is what Manning's deal was. The overall Manning deal is slightly less than what Condon wants for Brees, an average of $18+ million per year. The key hold up is that Condon demanded $24 million per year for the first three years because Manning got $23 million. He knew that the Saints don't have the cap room to cover that right now and stay viable. He knew they'd have to tag Brees and let his other client, Carl Nicks go to the open market. Now that the deed is done watch for a more cap friendly version of the deal to get done for the same overall number. Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show. claus808 likes this.

03-07-2012, 04:28 PM	#4
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show. This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off. Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone: Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later." Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done. This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ AsylumGuido, SaintsBro and SloMotion like this.

03-07-2012, 05:41 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,787	Originally Posted by alexonfyre This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off. Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone: Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later." Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done. This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ Thanks, Alex. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get this point across to many of these people.

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