Sign Peyton Manning

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I disagree.

Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is.

Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap.

Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks!

Why do you refuse to see that this is not Brees making this call? Condon put that number out there because that is what Manning's deal was. The overall Manning deal is slightly less than what Condon wants for Brees, an average of $18+ million per year. The key hold up is that Condon demanded $24 million per year for the first three years because Manning got $23 million. He knew that the Saints don't have the cap room to cover that right now and stay viable. He knew they'd have to tag Brees and let his other client, Carl Nicks go to the open market. Now that the deed is done watch for a more cap friendly version of the deal to get done for the same overall number.

Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show.

alexonfyre · 03-07-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show.

This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off.
Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone:
Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later."

Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done.
This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off.
Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone:
Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later."

Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done.
This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ

Thanks, Alex. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get this point across to many of these people.

SapperSaint · 03-07-2012, 01:12 PM

Clause, there just isn't that many up and coming QB's out there.

Even Matt Flynn is going to get a heavy contract this year.

claus808 · 03-07-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Clause, there just isn't that many up and coming QB's out there.

Even Matt Flynn is going to get a heavy contract this year.

Touche :/

xan · 03-07-2012, 01:26 PM

Whodatness?

I just love the American language.

ok, here ya go, my contribution to Webster's...

whodatness ('hü-dät-'nəs) noun. 1. quality, state or fact of being a whodat. 2. The degree of tribal chanting, incantations and emotional commitment related to affiliation to the Greater New Orleans Area (GNOA), New Orleans Saints professional football team, any GNOA formal or informal team or organization, and/or alcohol serving establishment.

Danno · 03-07-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Whodatness?

I just love the American language.

ok, here ya go, my contribution to Webster's...

whodatness ('hü-dät-'nəs) noun. 1. quality, state or fact of being a whodat. 2. The degree of tribal chanting, incantations and emotional commitment related to affiliation to the Greater New Orleans Area (GNOA), New Orleans Saints professional football team, any GNOA formal or informal team or organization, and/or alcohol serving establishment.

Nicely done.

Your forumness is on target today.

Euphoria · 03-07-2012, 02:08 PM

ok think about this...

We sign Manning.

Trade Drew for 2 draft pics so in case we lose picks over Bounty gate we make up for it by the trade. Not that I think losing draft picks hurt us I really don't think that does... you can make up for it via FA but... something I would consider if I can see Manning throw the football.

lynwood · 03-07-2012, 04:25 PM

In Indy Manning Ran the Offense

Here Payton runs the Offense and Brees delivers.

It just wouldn't work.

hagan714 · 03-07-2012, 05:53 PM

yeah baby cut drew and sign manning for the nfl min lmao

03-07-2012, 04:02 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Originally Posted by SapperSaint I disagree. Drew is a guy that has been tagged because he doesn't want the contract Loomis put in front of him. A TAG, that Drew has not signed yet. So right now he is a QB that is holding out for 5 million dollars and is handicapping the team right now. That what Drew is. Look I love Drew. I want him here til he retires. I want a 20 foot bronze statue of the guy in front of the Dome. But I broke one of my rules as a Saints fan.... I can't get attached to One player. I love this team more than I love Drew. If Drew really wanted what was best for this team... he would have signed that contract last week and the only thing we'd be talking about on this site is the stupid "BountyGate" crap. Buuuuuttttt Noooooooooooo; Drew wants 5 million more on the front end of his contract. Bullocks! Why do you refuse to see that this is not Brees making this call? Condon put that number out there because that is what Manning's deal was. The overall Manning deal is slightly less than what Condon wants for Brees, an average of $18+ million per year. The key hold up is that Condon demanded $24 million per year for the first three years because Manning got $23 million. He knew that the Saints don't have the cap room to cover that right now and stay viable. He knew they'd have to tag Brees and let his other client, Carl Nicks go to the open market. Now that the deed is done watch for a more cap friendly version of the deal to get done for the same overall number. Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show. claus808 likes this.

03-07-2012, 04:28 PM	#2
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Stop blaming Brees. It is all a part of the negotiating game and the players always agree to let there agents run the show. This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off. Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone: Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later." Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done. This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ AsylumGuido, SaintsBro and SloMotion like this.

03-07-2012, 05:41 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Originally Posted by alexonfyre This. I've been reading alot about representation in the last few days and anyone who thinks Drew Brees has stepped one foot in the room so far is an ignoramus. In all likelihood communication between Brees and Loomis is entirely cut off. Every couple days this conversation happens over the phone: Condon says "They are offering you 18m/year" Drew might say "That sounds like a good deal, let's get it done." to which Tom says "Don't let them low-ball you Drew, you have, at worst, the same contribution as Peyton and he is getting X, you shouldn't accept any less than X+1, and I'll get you X+1, just give it some time." "Okay Tom, call me for dinner when you are back in town." "Say hi to Brit for me, bud, talk to you later." Then Drew turns off the TV and the internet and totally cuts off from sports news until the deal is done. This is particularly enlightening: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YiqK72_N1M05UQ Thanks, Alex. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get this point across to many of these people.

03-07-2012, 01:17 PM	#5
claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Originally Posted by SapperSaint Clause, there just isn't that many up and coming QB's out there. Even Matt Flynn is going to get a heavy contract this year. Touche :/

03-07-2012, 01:26 PM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Whodatness? I just love the American language. ok, here ya go, my contribution to Webster's... whodatness ('hü-dät-'nəs) noun. 1. quality, state or fact of being a whodat. 2. The degree of tribal chanting, incantations and emotional commitment related to affiliation to the Greater New Orleans Area (GNOA), New Orleans Saints professional football team, any GNOA formal or informal team or organization, and/or alcohol serving establishment. Danno, SapperSaint, CharityMike and 1 others like this.

03-07-2012, 01:12 PM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Clause, there just isn't that many up and coming QB's out there. Even Matt Flynn is going to get a heavy contract this year.

03-07-2012, 02:00 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by xan Whodatness? I just love the American language. ok, here ya go, my contribution to Webster's... whodatness ('hü-dät-'nəs) noun. 1. quality, state or fact of being a whodat. 2. The degree of tribal chanting, incantations and emotional commitment related to affiliation to the Greater New Orleans Area (GNOA), New Orleans Saints professional football team, any GNOA formal or informal team or organization, and/or alcohol serving establishment. Nicely done. Your forumness is on target today. SapperSaint and SloMotion like this.

03-07-2012, 02:08 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	ok think about this... We sign Manning. Trade Drew for 2 draft pics so in case we lose picks over Bounty gate we make up for it by the trade. Not that I think losing draft picks hurt us I really don't think that does... you can make up for it via FA but... something I would consider if I can see Manning throw the football. SmashMouth likes this.

03-07-2012, 04:25 PM	#9
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	In Indy Manning Ran the Offense Here Payton runs the Offense and Brees delivers. It just wouldn't work.

03-07-2012, 05:53 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	yeah baby cut drew and sign manning for the nfl min lmao

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