Brees selfish turn

Ashley · 03-07-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Asylum

Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed at Condon if you wish, but he's just doing his job, too.

As I have tried to explain on this board many times, Condon represents Carl Nicks, as well. Condon surely knew that the Saints could not absorb a $24 million hit per year for the first three years of a contract. He did that to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus letting his other client, Nicks, hit the open market.

A deal will get done.

Grow up, y'all. Get with the program. These things are not as simple as you might think.

I am ashamed to read this crap y'all are spouting with no clue how things work. Do you want to drive Drew away? Keep this **** up.

He has already leaked word that he feels confident a deal will be made. I'm sure that Condon wasn't happy about that.

Dammit, get with the program. Support the team and our QB. They will be together for years to come.

First of all, I am aware how things go. I was confident that a deal would get done before the tag was used on him. Now that it hasn't, I still believe it will get done, and soon.

If your going to start jumping on me because I'm pissed he turned down the one we offered him. Why? Is it because of what his agent has told him? Is it because he wants more up front? I guess your an agent and you know what really is going on? I guess I need to grow up, cause my post will drive Drew away.
Come on this is bs AND don't say that he Drew Brees was not aware of the money being offered to him by this agent. I call B.S., you didn't say this another member did.
If you are keeping up with any of my post, I'm a positive Saint fan, yes after reading the article I was pissed, because it should have gotten done. But it hasn't, I know it will but it's not yet so there for I'm pissed now.
Look Asylum I'm not bashing on you here, I'm a Saint fan just like you, I'm not going to question your loyalty because we don't agree on what is really going on. All we now for sure is no deal is done yet. period

TheOak · 03-08-2012, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy?

Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans?

Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote?

They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work.

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!

Bravo! Salary cap is NOT about one player, it is a pool and there are multiple parties that are NOT playing ball.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed at Condon if you wish, but he's just doing his job, too.

As I have tried to explain on this board many times, Condon represents Carl Nicks, as well. Condon surely knew that the Saints could not absorb a $24 million hit per year for the first three years of a contract. He did that to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus letting his other client, Nicks, hit the open market.

A deal will get done.

Grow up, y'all. Get with the program. These things are not as simple as you might think.

I am ashamed to read this crap y'all are spouting with no clue how things work. Do you want to drive Drew away? Keep this **** up.

He has already leaked word that he feels confident a deal will be made. I'm sure that Condon wasn't happy about that.

Dammit, get with the program. Support the team and our QB. They will be together for years to come.

Thank You!

That being said, the MOST PRODUCTIVE QB in the NFL in the last three years should be the paid player ever. Period. Full stop.

These negotiations with Brees just like the strike negotiations over the summer are all played the same way. It is hard ball business plain and simple. Until "zero hour" one party will high ball and the other party will low ball.... They know if they give up just one inch too soon it will sway the final result if they meet in the middle.

Even if Drew were in total control of this situation I can never fault a man for trying to get every frikken last dollar he can for his family. The Saints are Loomis's business, the Bree's family is Drew's business.

Face facts. Bree's is our offense just like Manning was the offense for the Colts. Could our receivers do as well with any other QB? Probably not. Could Brees do as well with any other recievers? You bet your ass, he has made stars out of a lot of recievers in the last few years.

Jamessr · 03-07-2012, 07:52 PM

let Bobby Hebert ask him that on the Radio... I'd like to hear Drew's answer

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

let Bobby Hebert ask him that on the Radio... I'd like to hear Drew's answer

Drew can't answer on the radio. I guarantee his contract with Condon, his agent, spells out that he is not allowed to discuss negotiations.

Chill out and wait. Things will work out.

Jamessr · 03-07-2012, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drew can't answer on the radio. I guarantee his contract with Condon, his agent, spells out that he is not allowed to discuss negotiations.

Chill out and wait. Things will work out.

Good point... I didn't realize that

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Good point... I didn't realize that

Players are always restricted by the contracts with their agents from commenting on any aspect. If they weren't it would hamstring the agent's ability to deal. I have no doubt that Brees would have accept an offer much less front-loaded than Condon demanded, but he had to trust his agent to do what was best for him long term.

WhoDat!656 · 03-07-2012, 08:07 PM

Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy?

Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans?

Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote?

They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work.

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!

Jamessr · 03-07-2012, 08:12 PM

Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy?
Because alot of articles ave mentioned it... Brees hasn't said anything to squash it

Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans?
Nicks commented on it himself. He says inflation

Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote?
He isn't asking 23 million a year plus wasn't given a chance to be the highest paid QB/player in history

They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work.
Saints need a 53 man roster... Not just 1 makes it work

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!
No comment

WhoDat!656 · 03-07-2012, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy?
Because alot of articles ave mentioned it... Brees hasn't said anything to squash it

Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans?
Nicks commented on it himself. He says inflation

Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote?
He isn't asking 23 million a year plus wasn't given a chance to be the highest paid QB/player in history

They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work.
Saints need a 53 man roster... Not just 1 makes it work

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!
No comment

Nicks and Colston have to know that the main reason they can 'demand' that much money is because of Brees.

Danno · 03-07-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Pay Brees!!!!!

We did. He rejected an offer that would make him the highest paid player in the entire NFL, TWICE!!!

SIGN THE DAMN THING DREW!!!

03-07-2012, 11:55 PM	#1
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Originally Posted by Asylum Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed at Condon if you wish, but he's just doing his job, too. As I have tried to explain on this board many times, Condon represents Carl Nicks, as well. Condon surely knew that the Saints could not absorb a $24 million hit per year for the first three years of a contract. He did that to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus letting his other client, Nicks, hit the open market. A deal will get done. Grow up, y'all. Get with the program. These things are not as simple as you might think. I am ashamed to read this crap y'all are spouting with no clue how things work. Do you want to drive Drew away? Keep this **** up. He has already leaked word that he feels confident a deal will be made. I'm sure that Condon wasn't happy about that. Dammit, get with the program. Support the team and our QB. They will be together for years to come. First of all, I am aware how things go. I was confident that a deal would get done before the tag was used on him. Now that it hasn't, I still believe it will get done, and soon. If your going to start jumping on me because I'm pissed he turned down the one we offered him. Why? Is it because of what his agent has told him? Is it because he wants more up front? I guess your an agent and you know what really is going on? I guess I need to grow up, cause my post will drive Drew away. Come on this is bs AND don't say that he Drew Brees was not aware of the money being offered to him by this agent. I call B.S., you didn't say this another member did. If you are keeping up with any of my post, I'm a positive Saint fan, yes after reading the article I was pissed, because it should have gotten done. But it hasn't, I know it will but it's not yet so there for I'm pissed now. Look Asylum I'm not bashing on you here, I'm a Saint fan just like you, I'm not going to question your loyalty because we don't agree on what is really going on. All we now for sure is no deal is done yet. period Crusader likes this.
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03-08-2012, 07:26 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy? Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans? Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote? They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work. I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! Bravo! Salary cap is NOT about one player, it is a pool and there are multiple parties that are NOT playing ball. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed at Condon if you wish, but he's just doing his job, too. As I have tried to explain on this board many times, Condon represents Carl Nicks, as well. Condon surely knew that the Saints could not absorb a $24 million hit per year for the first three years of a contract. He did that to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus letting his other client, Nicks, hit the open market. A deal will get done. Grow up, y'all. Get with the program. These things are not as simple as you might think. I am ashamed to read this crap y'all are spouting with no clue how things work. Do you want to drive Drew away? Keep this **** up. He has already leaked word that he feels confident a deal will be made. I'm sure that Condon wasn't happy about that. Dammit, get with the program. Support the team and our QB. They will be together for years to come. Thank You! That being said, the MOST PRODUCTIVE QB in the NFL in the last three years should be the paid player ever. Period. Full stop. These negotiations with Brees just like the strike negotiations over the summer are all played the same way. It is hard ball business plain and simple. Until "zero hour" one party will high ball and the other party will low ball.... They know if they give up just one inch too soon it will sway the final result if they meet in the middle. Even if Drew were in total control of this situation I can never fault a man for trying to get every frikken last dollar he can for his family. The Saints are Loomis's business, the Bree's family is Drew's business. Face facts. Bree's is our offense just like Manning was the offense for the Colts. Could our receivers do as well with any other QB? Probably not. Could Brees do as well with any other recievers? You bet your ass, he has made stars out of a lot of recievers in the last few years.
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03-07-2012, 08:13 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Originally Posted by Jamessr let Bobby Hebert ask him that on the Radio... I'd like to hear Drew's answer Drew can't answer on the radio. I guarantee his contract with Condon, his agent, spells out that he is not allowed to discuss negotiations. Chill out and wait. Things will work out.

03-07-2012, 08:14 PM	#5
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drew can't answer on the radio. I guarantee his contract with Condon, his agent, spells out that he is not allowed to discuss negotiations. Chill out and wait. Things will work out. Good point... I didn't realize that

03-07-2012, 08:19 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Originally Posted by Jamessr Good point... I didn't realize that Players are always restricted by the contracts with their agents from commenting on any aspect. If they weren't it would hamstring the agent's ability to deal. I have no doubt that Brees would have accept an offer much less front-loaded than Condon demanded, but he had to trust his agent to do what was best for him long term.

03-07-2012, 07:52 PM	#3
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	let Bobby Hebert ask him that on the Radio... I'd like to hear Drew's answer

03-07-2012, 08:07 PM	#7
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy? Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans? Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote? They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work. I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! TheOak likes this.

03-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#8
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy? Because alot of articles ave mentioned it... Brees hasn't said anything to squash it Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans? Nicks commented on it himself. He says inflation Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote? He isn't asking 23 million a year plus wasn't given a chance to be the highest paid QB/player in history They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work. Saints need a 53 man roster... Not just 1 makes it work I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! No comment Crusader likes this.

03-07-2012, 08:30 PM	#9
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Originally Posted by Jamessr Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy? Because alot of articles ave mentioned it... Brees hasn't said anything to squash it Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans? Nicks commented on it himself. He says inflation Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote? He isn't asking 23 million a year plus wasn't given a chance to be the highest paid QB/player in history They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work. Saints need a 53 man roster... Not just 1 makes it work I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! No comment Nicks and Colston have to know that the main reason they can 'demand' that much money is because of Brees.

03-07-2012, 09:47 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Originally Posted by Jamessr I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! Originally Posted by OldMaid Pay Brees!!!!! We did. He rejected an offer that would make him the highest paid player in the entire NFL, TWICE!!! SIGN THE DAMN THING DREW!!! saintfan, Crusader and Budsdrinker like this.

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