Spagnuolo - Odd Man Out

darstep · 03-13-2012, 04:56 PM

The front four will be key.
The turn overs will come back if we control the line of scrimage.
Good pressure up front leaves the back 7 free to make plays.
No more extra effort providing run support from corners and safeties.
Those guys were working overtime in run support.
No wonder they were a step slow in coverage all the time.
Jordan should be better. Smith CAN be better. Ellis needs to be better.
Rogers, Franklin, Taylor: somebody please be better.
A little interior help would do wonders for both Smith and Jordan on the outside.

Pete · 03-13-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

He just needs to fire up his own bounty program and it's all good...

Dude NO!lmfao

FinSaint · 03-13-2012, 05:03 PM

Luckily the DT class is by far the best/widest class out of all of the positions in the upcoming draft, so if the Saints have any of their picks come draft day - I think they can find good pass rushing DTs that way (f.e. Derek Wolfe).

Jason Jones would be a nice FA addition to the front 4, because he could line up as a DT or a DE depending on the situation. But I doubt the Saints can afford to sign him if there is even a hint of competition over his signature. Maybe cutting Ellis in favor of signing Jones would be the move they need?!

I firmly believe that Spags will be able to get much more production out of the existing players than GW ever did, and that is why I'm confident the defense will improve from last year even without major upgrades.

Jamessr · 03-13-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by papz

There's no get out of jail free card. Having all our offensive talent back actually helps keep the defense fresh.

Roman Harper - Pro Bowler
Malcolm Jenkins - Pro Bowl talent
Jabrari Greer - above average/solid corner
Patrick Robinson - solid corner
Junior Galette - DE with the freakish talent Spags look for
Will Smith - solid veteran
Jonathan Vilma - solid to above average when healthy
Martez Wilson - 3rd round pick that has flashed very good upside

There's plenty of talent here. He's not inheriting a bunch of losers and asked to perform a miracle. Also you don't have to spend big money to add quality free agents... we also have some draft picks in this upcoming draft too.

IMHO you have Jabrari Greer and Patrick Robinson reversed. Jabrari Greer is underrated.

|Mitch| · 03-13-2012, 07:59 PM

Don't forget about Johnny Patrick; I expect to see his talent emerge with the guidance of Flajole...

papz · 03-13-2012, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

IMHO you have Jabrari Greer and Patrick Robinson reversed. Jabrari Greer is underrated.

Average|Solid|Above Average

Greer definitely is underrated around the league and the better player of the two right now.

ChrisXVI · 03-13-2012, 09:18 PM

Maybe they're giving Spags the draft to pick the players that he wants to fill the holes that he thinks are in desperate need of filling. Our defense will be fine.

Belair57 · 03-13-2012, 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=papz;386699]There's no get out of jail free card. Having all our offensive talent back actually helps keep the defense fresh.

Roman Harper - Pro Bowler
Malcolm Jenkins - Pro Bowl talent
Jabrari Greer - above average/solid corner
Patrick Robinson - solid corner
Junior Galette - DE with the freakish talent Spags look for
Will Smith - solid veteran
Jonathan Vilma - solid to above average when healthy
Martez Wilson - 3rd round pick that has flashed very good upside

WILL SMITH HAS DONE NOTHING..HE NEEDS TO GO

QBREES9 · 03-14-2012, 12:07 AM

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TheKillerBs · 03-14-2012, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Belair57

WILL SMITH HAS DONE A LOT FOR THIS TEAM..HE NEEDS MOTIVATION TO GET BACK TO WHERE HE WAS

Fixed

03-13-2012, 05:02 PM	#12
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,753	Originally Posted by saintfan He just needs to fire up his own bounty program and it's all good... Dude NO!lmfao SapperSaint likes this.

03-13-2012, 05:03 PM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Luckily the DT class is by far the best/widest class out of all of the positions in the upcoming draft, so if the Saints have any of their picks come draft day - I think they can find good pass rushing DTs that way (f.e. Derek Wolfe). Jason Jones would be a nice FA addition to the front 4, because he could line up as a DT or a DE depending on the situation. But I doubt the Saints can afford to sign him if there is even a hint of competition over his signature. Maybe cutting Ellis in favor of signing Jones would be the move they need?! I firmly believe that Spags will be able to get much more production out of the existing players than GW ever did, and that is why I'm confident the defense will improve from last year even without major upgrades. papz likes this.
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03-13-2012, 07:56 PM	#14
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by papz There's no get out of jail free card. Having all our offensive talent back actually helps keep the defense fresh. Roman Harper - Pro Bowler Malcolm Jenkins - Pro Bowl talent Jabrari Greer - above average/solid corner Patrick Robinson - solid corner Junior Galette - DE with the freakish talent Spags look for Will Smith - solid veteran Jonathan Vilma - solid to above average when healthy Martez Wilson - 3rd round pick that has flashed very good upside There's plenty of talent here. He's not inheriting a bunch of losers and asked to perform a miracle. Also you don't have to spend big money to add quality free agents... we also have some draft picks in this upcoming draft too. IMHO you have Jabrari Greer and Patrick Robinson reversed. Jabrari Greer is underrated.

03-13-2012, 08:36 PM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Originally Posted by Jamessr IMHO you have Jabrari Greer and Patrick Robinson reversed. Jabrari Greer is underrated. Average\|Solid\|Above Average Greer definitely is underrated around the league and the better player of the two right now. SapperSaint and QBREES9 like this.

03-13-2012, 11:52 PM	#18
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	[QUOTE=papz;386699]There's no get out of jail free card. Having all our offensive talent back actually helps keep the defense fresh. Roman Harper - Pro Bowler Malcolm Jenkins - Pro Bowl talent Jabrari Greer - above average/solid corner Patrick Robinson - solid corner Junior Galette - DE with the freakish talent Spags look for Will Smith - solid veteran Jonathan Vilma - solid to above average when healthy Martez Wilson - 3rd round pick that has flashed very good upside WILL SMITH HAS DONE NOTHING..HE NEEDS TO GO
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03-13-2012, 04:56 PM	#11
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	The front four will be key. The turn overs will come back if we control the line of scrimage. Good pressure up front leaves the back 7 free to make plays. No more extra effort providing run support from corners and safeties. Those guys were working overtime in run support. No wonder they were a step slow in coverage all the time. Jordan should be better. Smith CAN be better. Ellis needs to be better. Rogers, Franklin, Taylor: somebody please be better. A little interior help would do wonders for both Smith and Jordan on the outside.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Don't forget about Johnny Patrick; I expect to see his talent emerge with the guidance of Flajole...

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Maybe they're giving Spags the draft to pick the players that he wants to fill the holes that he thinks are in desperate need of filling. Our defense will be fine.

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