Breaking .. Another Saints Scandal

04-24-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by papz

The FBI and Louisiana State Police have established a joint task force to investigate allegations that the Saints illegally wiretapped opposing coaching staffs from 2002-04.

"We want to see if there is any validity to the allegations and if it affects any state statutes," were the words of State Police Superintendent Mike Edmonson Tuesday. It's believed both the state and federal statue of limitations in the case have expired, so it remains unlikely GM Mickey Loomis will face any criminal charges.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

They are only liable for prosecution if there was any attempt to cover this up which lasted into 2007 or further, if it ended before hand...then what you said holds true

SloMotion · 04-24-2012, 11:32 AM

I thought there had to be some sort of statute-of-limitations on any criminal charges being brought ... this is all just too much, what ever happened to waiting until you have some facts before you try 'scooping' a story?

RedWings44 · 04-24-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I thought there had to be some sort of statute-of-limitations on any criminal charges being brought ... this is all just too much, what ever happened to waiting until you have some facts before you try 'scooping' a story?

There is, it is 5 years (I think). I read that if there was an attempt to cover this up in 2007 or later, it would fall within that time period and criminal charges could be brought

Halo · 04-24-2012, 11:35 AM

Hate to say it but as everyone knows, I am a die-hard Saints fan....
but with all the off-season BS going on I'm going to have a hard time picking them to win more than 6 or 7 games this year... especially without our coach.

I believe this is the single most depressing off-season I've witnesses in the 35 years or so I've followed the team with intensity, pretty much since I started paying close attention when I was a child.

RedWings44 · 04-24-2012, 11:36 AM

Welcome to the old world of the Detroit Lions lol. Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing)

darstep · 04-24-2012, 11:39 AM

Deer in the headlights!
What to do? What to do?
Maybe they'll just swirve and miss us.

Halo · 04-24-2012, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by RedWings44

There is, it is 5 years (I think). I read that if there was an attempt to cover this up in 2007 or later, it would fall within that time period and criminal charges could be brought

Statute of limitations or not, you have to understand as Saints fans and citizens of the City of New Orleans, we're just taking it on the chin non-stop... and for something none of us personally have done.

Whether any of these allegations are true or not, we have no way to argue or fight back. We get zero information from the league, no one can tell what will happen next, and it's just a mess.

RedWings44 · 04-24-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Statute of limitations or not, you have to understand as Saints fans and citizens of the City of New Orleans, we're just taking it on the chin non-stop... and for something none of us personally have done.

Whether any of these allegations are true or not, we have no way to argue or fight back. We get zero information from the league, no one can tell what will happen next, and it's just a mess.

I reply to you with this other quote from me

Originally Posted by RedWings44

Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing)

SloMotion · 04-24-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Hate to say it but as everyone knows, I am a die-hard Saints fan....
but with all the off-season BS going on I'm going to have a hard time picking them to win more than 6 or 7 games this year... especially without our coach.

I believe this is the single most depressing off-season I've witnesses in the 35 years or so I've followed the team with intensity, pretty much since I started paying close attention when I was a child.

Really? I never would've pegged you for a Saints fan,

... but I think you guys are better for 6/7 wins ... it might be a little harder making game-time adjustments and calling plays, but you guys got the players and coaching staff that can step up ... I'm still picking New Orleans to win the NFC South ... and yeah, all this offseason drama is having a negative affect on how I'm viewing the entire NFL right now ... it is depressing ... but it's always darkest before the dawn ... this too will pass.

Halo · 04-24-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by RedWings44

Welcome to the old world of the Detroit Lions lol. Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing)

I kind of agree with you. The Saints were bottom dwellers off and on for years, (mostly on). Early in the 2000's we had some hope with Hazlett and Mueller for a short while steering the ship, but that ended up a joke.

Detroit had the agonizing torture of having to deal with Matt Millen and his off-season habits for WAY TOO LONG. Millen was famous for bone-headed offseason B.S.

When I saw Millen make it to the NFL network as an "expert" and also on NBC, I really scratched my head--- he's a total idiot.

So I guess I know what it felt like for Detroiters to be on the open seas on a ship WITH NO NAME... and no one truly at the helm.

So yeah, I'm kinda getting that "Matt Millen Off-Season" kind of a feeling.

04-24-2012, 11:27 AM	#121
Threaded by RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by papz The FBI and Louisiana State Police have established a joint task force to investigate allegations that the Saints illegally wiretapped opposing coaching staffs from 2002-04. "We want to see if there is any validity to the allegations and if it affects any state statutes," were the words of State Police Superintendent Mike Edmonson Tuesday. It's believed both the state and federal statue of limitations in the case have expired, so it remains unlikely GM Mickey Loomis will face any criminal charges. Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune They are only liable for prosecution if there was any attempt to cover this up which lasted into 2007 or further, if it ended before hand...then what you said holds true
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04-24-2012, 11:35 AM	#123
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Originally Posted by SloMotion I thought there had to be some sort of statute-of-limitations on any criminal charges being brought ... this is all just too much, what ever happened to waiting until you have some facts before you try 'scooping' a story? There is, it is 5 years (I think). I read that if there was an attempt to cover this up in 2007 or later, it would fall within that time period and criminal charges could be brought

04-24-2012, 11:40 AM	#127
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by RedWings44 There is, it is 5 years (I think). I read that if there was an attempt to cover this up in 2007 or later, it would fall within that time period and criminal charges could be brought Statute of limitations or not, you have to understand as Saints fans and citizens of the City of New Orleans, we're just taking it on the chin non-stop... and for something none of us personally have done. Whether any of these allegations are true or not, we have no way to argue or fight back. We get zero information from the league, no one can tell what will happen next, and it's just a mess.

04-24-2012, 11:46 AM	#128
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Originally Posted by Halo Statute of limitations or not, you have to understand as Saints fans and citizens of the City of New Orleans, we're just taking it on the chin non-stop... and for something none of us personally have done. Whether any of these allegations are true or not, we have no way to argue or fight back. We get zero information from the league, no one can tell what will happen next, and it's just a mess. I reply to you with this other quote from me Originally Posted by RedWings44 Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing) Halo likes this.

04-24-2012, 11:47 AM	#129
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Halo Hate to say it but as everyone knows, I am a die-hard Saints fan.... but with all the off-season BS going on I'm going to have a hard time picking them to win more than 6 or 7 games this year... especially without our coach. I believe this is the single most depressing off-season I've witnesses in the 35 years or so I've followed the team with intensity, pretty much since I started paying close attention when I was a child. Really? I never would've pegged you for a Saints fan, ... but I think you guys are better for 6/7 wins ... it might be a little harder making game-time adjustments and calling plays, but you guys got the players and coaching staff that can step up ... I'm still picking New Orleans to win the NFC South ... and yeah, all this offseason drama is having a negative affect on how I'm viewing the entire NFL right now ... it is depressing ... but it's always darkest before the dawn ... this too will pass.

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04-24-2012, 11:32 AM	#122
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	I thought there had to be some sort of statute-of-limitations on any criminal charges being brought ... this is all just too much, what ever happened to waiting until you have some facts before you try 'scooping' a story?

04-24-2012, 11:35 AM	#124
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	Hate to say it but as everyone knows, I am a die-hard Saints fan.... but with all the off-season BS going on I'm going to have a hard time picking them to win more than 6 or 7 games this year... especially without our coach. I believe this is the single most depressing off-season I've witnesses in the 35 years or so I've followed the team with intensity, pretty much since I started paying close attention when I was a child.

04-24-2012, 11:36 AM	#125
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Welcome to the old world of the Detroit Lions lol. Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing)

04-24-2012, 11:39 AM	#126
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Deer in the headlights! What to do? What to do? Maybe they'll just swirve and miss us.

04-24-2012, 11:50 AM	#130
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by RedWings44 Welcome to the old world of the Detroit Lions lol. Like I said, I feel bad for you fans and for the players of whom had no idea/involvement in any of this (including the bounty thing) I kind of agree with you. The Saints were bottom dwellers off and on for years, (mostly on). Early in the 2000's we had some hope with Hazlett and Mueller for a short while steering the ship, but that ended up a joke. Detroit had the agonizing torture of having to deal with Matt Millen and his off-season habits for WAY TOO LONG. Millen was famous for bone-headed offseason B.S. When I saw Millen make it to the NFL network as an "expert" and also on NBC, I really scratched my head--- he's a total idiot. So I guess I know what it felt like for Detroiters to be on the open seas on a ship WITH NO NAME... and no one truly at the helm. So yeah, I'm kinda getting that "Matt Millen Off-Season" kind of a feeling.
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