Dwight Freeney

GeauxForMore · 04-26-2012, 03:25 PM

Colts say they are interested in a trade. He's getting 14 mil this year so the contract has to be worked. I know you guys talk about Osi earlier but what about Dwight. For the same 3rd or 4th round pick who would you want?

Colts reportedly interested in trading picks, Dwight Freeney | ProFootballTalk

|Mitch| · 04-26-2012, 03:28 PM

Way too expensive!

NuNu318 · 04-26-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Way to expensive!

Right...at least Osi is already @ $3.9mil which is reasonable. Even if you try to restructure he's not gonna go as low as Osi's contract.

FinSaint · 04-26-2012, 03:56 PM

I, personally, wouldn't trade either the 3th or the 4th for either one of these guys if they come with the current price tags - OU being closer to being a possible trade because of the lower salary and prior relationship with Spags.

Saints already have a "big ticket" DE in Smith, and with his salary I think they should try to stay young and hopefully hungry with their DE corps, so that they can have multiple quality guys to rotate instead of just a few stars.

TheOak · 04-26-2012, 04:05 PM

That's why you give them Smith in the trade... He has a Saints Jersy but probably will not be able to wear it for the first 1/2 of the season.

NuNu318 · 04-26-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I, personally, wouldn't trade either the 3th or the 4th for either one of these guys if they come with the current price tags - OU being closer to being a possible trade because of the lower salary and prior relationship with Spags.

Saints already have a "big ticket" DE in Smith, and with his salary I think they should try to stay young and hopefully hungry with their DE corps, so that they can have multiple quality guys to rotate instead of just a few stars.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think Osi would be better than getting a 3rd rounder who's not proven yet. You're actually picking Osi with a 3rd pick if you want to look at it that way. Thats some fantasy draft type s***. LOL. Lets be honest our gems that we've picked in the 3rd round and lower have mostly been offensive players. I just don't think that someone whose won 2 SBs, can be another leader on the field, has played under our DC, and is a hell of a DE isn't worth a 3rd round pick....its not a 1st round pick we're talkin about here.

If it can be done I say go for it. Osi might be a little older but he still has just as much as Brees has left in the tank. Dude played 9 games last year and go 9 sacks. No one on this team came anywhere near that last season and our DEs played in more games or an entire season. And since 2005, everytime he's had a single digit sack season he follows it up with over 10.

Rugby Saint II · 04-26-2012, 04:23 PM

He doesn't play DT. That's where we have to improve. Our DE's are decent to good and Romeus may work out well when he's healthy. We have to draft for need first. Give me a DT that can rush the passer. Even if we have to trade up to get that player. DT!!!

FinSaint · 04-26-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

That's why you give them Smith in the trade... He has a Saints Jersy but probably will not be able to wear it for the first 1/2 of the season.

Why do you think they would take Smith and his contract... if anything I would think that adding Smith to the trade would decrease the Saints' trade offer.

TheOak · 04-26-2012, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Why do you think they would take Smith and his contract... if anything I would think that adding Smith to the trade would decrease the Saints' trade offer.

Smith and his contract with a 3rd round pic. Is still a hell of a lot less than paying Freeny's contact.

Will Smith this year: 7,312,500

Freeney this year: 19,035,000

you tell me why they would take him

FinSaint · 04-26-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by NuNu318

I have to respectfully disagree. I think Osi would be better than getting a 3rd rounder who's not proven yet. You're actually picking Osi with a 3rd pick if you want to look at it that way. Thats some fantasy draft type s***. LOL. Lets be honest our gems that we've picked in the 3rd round and lower have mostly been offensive players. I just don't think that someone whose won 2 SBs, can be another leader on the field, has played under our DC, and is a hell of a DE isn't worth a 3rd round pick....its not a 1st round pick we're talkin about here.

If it can be done I say go for it. Osi might be a little older but he still has just as much as Brees has left in the tank. Dude played 9 games last year and go 9 sacks. No one on this team came anywhere near that last season and our DEs played in more games or an entire season. And since 2005, everytime he's had a single digit sack season he follows it up with over 10.

I do understand your points and I agree with most of what you said, but the 3rd round pick this year is pretty much a 1st round pick for the Saints, you can't evaluate it the same as another year with more and higher picks.

The Saint would be getting a very high quality DE (with a lot of package) for a single season after which he would be gone to the highest bidder because you can't argue against him not wanting to be paid.

The Saints can get a very high quality prospect with the 3rd round pick, who could become a big contributor for a number of years into the future when Osi is counting his money in a different postal code.

To me, Osi for a year is not worth trading away a (vital) piece of the franchise's future, you can't argue against the importance of bringing in new rookie players at a constant rate each and every single season - that is how good franchises stay good, something that the Failclowns don't understand.

04-26-2012, 03:25 PM	#1
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 588	Dwight Freeney Colts say they are interested in a trade. He's getting 14 mil this year so the contract has to be worked. I know you guys talk about Osi earlier but what about Dwight. For the same 3rd or 4th round pick who would you want? Colts reportedly interested in trading picks, Dwight Freeney \| ProFootballTalk

04-26-2012, 03:28 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Way too expensive!
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04-26-2012, 03:38 PM	#3
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Way to expensive! Right...at least Osi is already @ $3.9mil which is reasonable. Even if you try to restructure he's not gonna go as low as Osi's contract.

04-26-2012, 04:07 PM	#6
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Originally Posted by FinSaint I, personally, wouldn't trade either the 3th or the 4th for either one of these guys if they come with the current price tags - OU being closer to being a possible trade because of the lower salary and prior relationship with Spags. Saints already have a "big ticket" DE in Smith, and with his salary I think they should try to stay young and hopefully hungry with their DE corps, so that they can have multiple quality guys to rotate instead of just a few stars. I have to respectfully disagree. I think Osi would be better than getting a 3rd rounder who's not proven yet. You're actually picking Osi with a 3rd pick if you want to look at it that way. Thats some fantasy draft type s***. LOL. Lets be honest our gems that we've picked in the 3rd round and lower have mostly been offensive players. I just don't think that someone whose won 2 SBs, can be another leader on the field, has played under our DC, and is a hell of a DE isn't worth a 3rd round pick....its not a 1st round pick we're talkin about here. If it can be done I say go for it. Osi might be a little older but he still has just as much as Brees has left in the tank. Dude played 9 games last year and go 9 sacks. No one on this team came anywhere near that last season and our DEs played in more games or an entire season. And since 2005, everytime he's had a single digit sack season he follows it up with over 10.

04-26-2012, 04:23 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	He doesn't play DT. That's where we have to improve. Our DE's are decent to good and Romeus may work out well when he's healthy. We have to draft for need first. Give me a DT that can rush the passer. Even if we have to trade up to get that player. DT!!! FinSaint likes this.

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04-26-2012, 03:56 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	I, personally, wouldn't trade either the 3th or the 4th for either one of these guys if they come with the current price tags - OU being closer to being a possible trade because of the lower salary and prior relationship with Spags. Saints already have a "big ticket" DE in Smith, and with his salary I think they should try to stay young and hopefully hungry with their DE corps, so that they can have multiple quality guys to rotate instead of just a few stars.

04-26-2012, 04:05 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	That's why you give them Smith in the trade... He has a Saints Jersy but probably will not be able to wear it for the first 1/2 of the season.

04-26-2012, 04:25 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by x626xBlack That's why you give them Smith in the trade... He has a Saints Jersy but probably will not be able to wear it for the first 1/2 of the season. Why do you think they would take Smith and his contract... if anything I would think that adding Smith to the trade would decrease the Saints' trade offer.

04-26-2012, 04:33 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by FinSaint Why do you think they would take Smith and his contract... if anything I would think that adding Smith to the trade would decrease the Saints' trade offer. Smith and his contract with a 3rd round pic. Is still a hell of a lot less than paying Freeny's contact. Will Smith this year: 7,312,500 Freeney this year: 19,035,000 you tell me why they would take him

04-26-2012, 04:36 PM	#10
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by NuNu318 I have to respectfully disagree. I think Osi would be better than getting a 3rd rounder who's not proven yet. You're actually picking Osi with a 3rd pick if you want to look at it that way. Thats some fantasy draft type s*. LOL. Lets be honest our gems that we've picked in the 3rd round and lower have mostly been offensive players. I just don't think that someone whose won 2 SBs, can be another leader on the field, has played under our DC, and is a hell of a DE isn't worth a 3rd round pick....its not a 1st round pick we're talkin about here. If it can be done I say go for it. Osi might be a little older but he still has just as much as Brees has left in the tank. Dude played 9 games last year and go 9 sacks. No one on this team came anywhere near that last season and our DEs played in more games or an entire season. And since 2005, everytime he's had a single digit sack season he follows it up with over 10. I do understand your points and I agree with most of what you said, but the 3rd round pick this year is pretty much a 1st round pick for the Saints, you can't evaluate it the same as another year with more and higher picks. The Saint would be getting a very high quality DE (with a lot of package) for a single season** after which he would be gone to the highest bidder because you can't argue against him not wanting to be paid. The Saints can get a very high quality prospect with the 3rd round pick, who could become a big contributor for a number of years into the future when Osi is counting his money in a different postal code. To me, Osi for a year is not worth trading away a (vital) piece of the franchise's future, you can't argue against the importance of bringing in new rookie players at a constant rate each and every single season - that is how good franchises stay good, something that the Failclowns don't understand. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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