Saints Pick Akeim Hicks DT - Regina Canada

burningmetal · 04-29-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

No, I got that. But the d-line and DT in particular is a much weaker spot than the o-line. The o-line, even with all the changes, has been very consistent the last 6 years: going off the top of my head, the o-line has gone through 4 centers, 4 LTs, 2 RT, 3 guards, and still, they produce. With all those changes, the Saints still fielded the best offense the last 6 years combined as reflected by points scored, number of sacks allowed, yards gained, etc; unlike the defense which, again, except for the one year when their trick was creating turnovers and giving the ball back to the best offense in football, have not been able to stop anyone.

What's the point of (debatable) "solidifying" the best offense in the business, if the defense still lets the likes of Alex Smith slice them and dice them for 4 consecutive drives in the 4th quarter of a playoff game?

If Drew goes down, all is lost? Ok. Sure. but with Drew at his best, the Saints still could not get past the divisional round of the playoffs because the defense could not stop anyone, and were a tad too close to letting Stafford and Megatron steal one in the Dome.

Is Hicks a "project"? Maybe. But maybe not. We'll see.

And you didn't watch "film". You watched a couple clips on youtube. Come on.

You know what? If you can't have an intelligent discussion without coming off as a cocky, know it all punk, then why should I continue to bother telling you what i think?

I said the tackles were weak, not the entire offensive line. And in case you have been asleep, we've added two really good linebackers along with Bunkley to help Solidify that defense. What we need is a pass rush, and we didn't get a pass rusher in Hicks. If he pans out he would help push the pocket some, and that would be good, but we need guys who specialize in rushing the QB. However, I believe that with Galette, Wilson, Romeus and maybe even Cam Jordan, there is a good young core of players that Spagnuolo will bring up and make them good pass rushers. Now you can disagree with that if you want, but a lot of people agree with that sentiment, it's not just me.

I would have had no problem with a DT there if it had been someone I thought had a chance to help us more than Massie. I would have liked to see them take Jared Crick, but apparently they didn't want him. You forget that we got in a hole last year against the 49ers because the offense kept turning it over. We were one dimensional the whole game and they got after Brees, and we made a lot of mistakes. To their credit, they fought back, but THEN the defense collapsed. And who was it that got beat repeatedly in those last two drives? Harper and Jenkins... Can't blame that one on Rogers and Franklin as bad as they may have been at times last year.

Every position is important, and when you have a chance to get a really good player, you get him. The Saints wanted Hicks more than any other player, so there's nothing more to say about it. I just thought I'd throw my two cents in like everyone else, but obviously you are determined to disagree with everything I say. I don't need you to agree with me.

And lastly, I saw whatever footage was available, whether it be NFL.com or youtube, or whatever. What does it matter, exactly, where I see it? It's there to be seen, and I saw it. Are you going to tell me I wasn't looking at the same player? What are you basing your opinion on? Have you personally scouted him? Every piece of information that you've gotten on him is the same thing that is available to everyone else, and I'm going with what I can see and read. You're a hypocrite if you think you have any more right to assume you know what kind of player he is, or will be, than I do. And I don't EVEN assume he won't be good, I just have serious doubts. Is that ok? He's a nice prospect, but I didn't want him there. But just as I don't need you agreeing with me, the Saints don't need anyone to agree with them. It's just an opinion, now move on.

04-29-2012, 04:39 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No, I got that. But the d-line and DT in particular is a much weaker spot than the o-line. The o-line, even with all the changes, has been very consistent the last 6 years: going off the top of my head, the o-line has gone through 4 centers, 4 LTs, 2 RT, 3 guards, and still, they produce. With all those changes, the Saints still fielded the best offense the last 6 years combined as reflected by points scored, number of sacks allowed, yards gained, etc; unlike the defense which, again, except for the one year when their trick was creating turnovers and giving the ball back to the best offense in football, have not been able to stop anyone. What's the point of (debatable) "solidifying" the best offense in the business, if the defense still lets the likes of Alex Smith slice them and dice them for 4 consecutive drives in the 4th quarter of a playoff game? If Drew goes down, all is lost? Ok. Sure. but with Drew at his best, the Saints still could not get past the divisional round of the playoffs because the defense could not stop anyone, and were a tad too close to letting Stafford and Megatron steal one in the Dome. Is Hicks a "project"? Maybe. But maybe not. We'll see. And you didn't watch "film". You watched a couple clips on youtube. Come on. You know what? If you can't have an intelligent discussion without coming off as a cocky, know it all punk, then why should I continue to bother telling you what i think? I said the tackles were weak, not the entire offensive line. And in case you have been asleep, we've added two really good linebackers along with Bunkley to help Solidify that defense. What we need is a pass rush, and we didn't get a pass rusher in Hicks. If he pans out he would help push the pocket some, and that would be good, but we need guys who specialize in rushing the QB. However, I believe that with Galette, Wilson, Romeus and maybe even Cam Jordan, there is a good young core of players that Spagnuolo will bring up and make them good pass rushers. Now you can disagree with that if you want, but a lot of people agree with that sentiment, it's not just me. I would have had no problem with a DT there if it had been someone I thought had a chance to help us more than Massie. I would have liked to see them take Jared Crick, but apparently they didn't want him. You forget that we got in a hole last year against the 49ers because the offense kept turning it over. We were one dimensional the whole game and they got after Brees, and we made a lot of mistakes. To their credit, they fought back, but THEN the defense collapsed. And who was it that got beat repeatedly in those last two drives? Harper and Jenkins... Can't blame that one on Rogers and Franklin as bad as they may have been at times last year. Every position is important, and when you have a chance to get a really good player, you get him. The Saints wanted Hicks more than any other player, so there's nothing more to say about it. I just thought I'd throw my two cents in like everyone else, but obviously you are determined to disagree with everything I say. I don't need you to agree with me. And lastly, I saw whatever footage was available, whether it be NFL.com or youtube, or whatever. What does it matter, exactly, where I see it? It's there to be seen, and I saw it. Are you going to tell me I wasn't looking at the same player? What are you basing your opinion on? Have you personally scouted him? Every piece of information that you've gotten on him is the same thing that is available to everyone else, and I'm going with what I can see and read. You're a hypocrite if you think you have any more right to assume you know what kind of player he is, or will be, than I do. And I don't EVEN assume he won't be good, I just have serious doubts. Is that ok? He's a nice prospect, but I didn't want him there. But just as I don't need you agreeing with me, the Saints don't need anyone to agree with them. It's just an opinion, now move on.
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