Mark Ingram....

Seer1 · 04-30-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Ingram was injuried while playing against the Colts at a point in the game when zero starters for the Saints should have been on the field.

I will always believe that being without Ingram in the playoffs was a large reason the Saints the game against the 40-whiners.

Sorry man, but we had more than enough offense. Remember Alex's stroll down the sideline for a TD on GW's 1,786,329th identical blitz of the season? I do think Ingram should have a monster year this season.

WhoDat!656 · 05-01-2012, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Sorry man, but we had more than enough offense. Remember Alex's stroll down the sideline for a TD on GW's 1,786,329th identical blitz of the season? I do think Ingram should have a monster year this season.

I don't remember Ingram being on defense; maybe if he was, the Saints would have won!

iceshack149 · 04-30-2012, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I will always believe that being without Ingram in the playoffs was a large reason the Saints the game against the 40-whiners.

No question. When PT got knocked out the Saints had a hard time beating the niners. They were also forced to use Roby as a returner.

pumpkindriver · 04-30-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

No question. When PT got knocked out the Saints had a hard time beating the niners. They were also forced to use Roby as a returner.

If PT had not gotten knocked out on that play, held on to the ball and we had scored a TD, we woulda won that game. That one play changed everything for us. That being said I only can hope that Ingram continues to improve this year and has a great season.

alexonfyre · 04-30-2012, 11:25 PM

I think Ingram did what he was supposed to last year. Get in the game, get used to the speed, learn the playbook. As you guys said, he didn't have OTAs he barely had a camp. He got a small number of snaps and never lost yardage, most of the time getting 2 or 3. I don't know what people were expecting from him, but I'm happy with his progress. I'm a little more worried about Cam Jordan.

NuNu318 · 05-01-2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

I think Ingram did what he was supposed to last year. Get in the game, get used to the speed, learn the playbook. As you guys said, he didn't have OTAs he barely had a camp. He got a small number of snaps and never lost yardage, most of the time getting 2 or 3. I don't know what people were expecting from him, but I'm happy with his progress. I'm a little more worried about Cam Jordan.

Exactly I like Cam Jordan but he had 1 sack last year as a 1st rounder and this guy was touted to be a world beater......I think he's more suited to be a pass rushing DT he has the size and that bullrush ability but edge rushing is not his forte. I would love to see him paired with Bunkley in the middle they are both run stuffers with the ability to rush the passer up the middle.

AlaskaSaints · 04-30-2012, 11:27 PM

Reminder to Pumpkin'...
Your avatar "aint all that hot".

Remember that one!? LOL

Alaska

FinSaint · 05-01-2012, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Reminder to Pumpkin'...
Your avatar "aint all that hot".

Remember that one!? LOL

Alaska

I can still see the reasoning behind that claim, you know "eye of the beholder" and such.

SaintGup · 05-01-2012, 06:22 AM

Sorry, but for those of you saying that running backs were our problem against San Francisco I would have to disagree. Too many turnovers and even then we came back but were then undone by stupid, STUPID defensive schemes that allowed Davis to get behind us. Williams just could not let go of the blitz and instead of keeping it all in front, he allowed rainbows over the top and for my mind that was unforgivable. I was disgusted with our defensive schemes after we pulled ahead by three. What idiot leaves Vernon Davis to do what he wants. We should have bracketed him or at least forced him in front of us across the middle but no, we didn't and we paid the price.

MistaBigXXL · 05-01-2012, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

Sorry, but for those of you saying that running backs were our problem against San Francisco I would have to disagree. Too many turnovers and even then we came back but were then undone by stupid, STUPID defensive schemes that allowed Davis to get behind us. Williams just could not let go of the blitz and instead of keeping it all in front, he allowed rainbows over the top and for my mind that was unforgivable. I was disgusted with our defensive schemes after we pulled ahead by three. What idiot leaves Vernon Davis to do what he wants. We should have bracketed him or at least forced him in front of us across the middle but no, we didn't and we paid the price.

It's clear to see that losing PT early in the game (plus the fact that it resulted in a turnover) and not having Ingram at all caused problems for the team.

But I will agree that when it was all said and done, in the 4th quarter we were in a good position to win the game but lost because of a defensive meltdown.

04-30-2012, 07:14 PM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Ingram was injuried while playing against the Colts at a point in the game when zero starters for the Saints should have been on the field. I will always believe that being without Ingram in the playoffs was a large reason the Saints the game against the 40-whiners. Sorry man, but we had more than enough offense. Remember Alex's stroll down the sideline for a TD on GW's 1,786,329th identical blitz of the season? I do think Ingram should have a monster year this season. Halo likes this.

05-01-2012, 02:08 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Originally Posted by Seer1 Sorry man, but we had more than enough offense. Remember Alex's stroll down the sideline for a TD on GW's 1,786,329th identical blitz of the season? I do think Ingram should have a monster year this season. I don't remember Ingram being on defense; maybe if he was, the Saints would have won!

04-30-2012, 07:18 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I will always believe that being without Ingram in the playoffs was a large reason the Saints the game against the 40-whiners. No question. When PT got knocked out the Saints had a hard time beating the niners. They were also forced to use Roby as a returner.

04-30-2012, 10:54 PM	#4
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Originally Posted by iceshack149 No question. When PT got knocked out the Saints had a hard time beating the niners. They were also forced to use Roby as a returner. If PT had not gotten knocked out on that play, held on to the ball and we had scored a TD, we woulda won that game. That one play changed everything for us. That being said I only can hope that Ingram continues to improve this year and has a great season.

05-01-2012, 01:55 PM	#6
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Originally Posted by alexonfyre I think Ingram did what he was supposed to last year. Get in the game, get used to the speed, learn the playbook. As you guys said, he didn't have OTAs he barely had a camp. He got a small number of snaps and never lost yardage, most of the time getting 2 or 3. I don't know what people were expecting from him, but I'm happy with his progress. I'm a little more worried about Cam Jordan. Exactly I like Cam Jordan but he had 1 sack last year as a 1st rounder and this guy was touted to be a world beater......I think he's more suited to be a pass rushing DT he has the size and that bullrush ability but edge rushing is not his forte. I would love to see him paired with Bunkley in the middle they are both run stuffers with the ability to rush the passer up the middle.

04-30-2012, 11:25 PM	#5
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	I think Ingram did what he was supposed to last year. Get in the game, get used to the speed, learn the playbook. As you guys said, he didn't have OTAs he barely had a camp. He got a small number of snaps and never lost yardage, most of the time getting 2 or 3. I don't know what people were expecting from him, but I'm happy with his progress. I'm a little more worried about Cam Jordan.

04-30-2012, 11:27 PM	#7
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Reminder to Pumpkin'... Your avatar "aint all that hot". Remember that one!? LOL Alaska

05-01-2012, 05:33 AM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Reminder to Pumpkin'... Your avatar "aint all that hot". Remember that one!? LOL Alaska I can still see the reasoning behind that claim, you know "eye of the beholder" and such.

05-01-2012, 06:22 AM	#9
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Sorry, but for those of you saying that running backs were our problem against San Francisco I would have to disagree. Too many turnovers and even then we came back but were then undone by stupid, STUPID defensive schemes that allowed Davis to get behind us. Williams just could not let go of the blitz and instead of keeping it all in front, he allowed rainbows over the top and for my mind that was unforgivable. I was disgusted with our defensive schemes after we pulled ahead by three. What idiot leaves Vernon Davis to do what he wants. We should have bracketed him or at least forced him in front of us across the middle but no, we didn't and we paid the price. Halo likes this.

05-01-2012, 01:07 PM	#10
MistaBigXXL 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 133	Originally Posted by SaintGup Sorry, but for those of you saying that running backs were our problem against San Francisco I would have to disagree. Too many turnovers and even then we came back but were then undone by stupid, STUPID defensive schemes that allowed Davis to get behind us. Williams just could not let go of the blitz and instead of keeping it all in front, he allowed rainbows over the top and for my mind that was unforgivable. I was disgusted with our defensive schemes after we pulled ahead by three. What idiot leaves Vernon Davis to do what he wants. We should have bracketed him or at least forced him in front of us across the middle but no, we didn't and we paid the price. It's clear to see that losing PT early in the game (plus the fact that it resulted in a turnover) and not having Ingram at all caused problems for the team. But I will agree that when it was all said and done, in the 4th quarter we were in a good position to win the game but lost because of a defensive meltdown.

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