Mark Ingram....

TheOak · 04-30-2012, 08:40 AM

Interesting what you hear about Mark Ingram after his first season with the Saints.... Some say he didn't preform well... Others say he didn't preform as expected.... I have heard we made a bad draft pick trade to get him (even though we would have lost that first round pick this year).

In my opinion we shouldn't have expected too much from Ingram... Yes he was a first round draft pick and with that honor comes expectations... high ones at that.

However, how much can you REALLY expect from a rookie with no preseason camps or training at all?

Can you really expect a rookie to walk into a game with a new QB (to him), new play book (to him), new line (to him), and the pressure from actually playing in the NFL. Besides having little or no familiarity with what he is working with, he has to also become able to make decisions at a lot quicker pace than he is used to...

This will be a good year to see how well Ingram will really pan out...

Averaging 4 YPC in that environment is not bad at all as far as I see it.

His season average was better than
McGahee
green-Elis
Rice

Danno · 04-30-2012, 08:45 AM

I give him a C-plus for the season. He was durable in college but got too dinged up his rrokie year.

He showed flashes of his burst and balance, but it seemed like he just seldom got into his groove.

The fact that the coaches were raving about him all training camp and repeatedly told us we haven't even come close to seeing how good he is makes me excited to see his development this year.

His best is yet to come.

FinSaint · 04-30-2012, 08:49 AM

Wasn't it SP who said that the only thing keeping Ingram from being the rookie of the year was him (SP) by not giving him more snaps?!

Danno · 04-30-2012, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Wasn't it SP who said that the only thing keeping Ingram from being the rookie of the year was him (SP) by not giving him more snaps?!

Yep, thats exactly what he said. And many of the reports from camp were extremely complimentary.

dizzle88 · 04-30-2012, 08:59 AM

Quotes from camp said that Ingram was ripping off 60 yard runs in training camp everyday which we didn't see in the regular season but I can fault him much, it's tough to get acclimate to the NFL and he did a good job at moving the chains and carrying the ball reliably, he should have a good season this year

Danno · 04-30-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Quotes from camp said that Ingram was ripping off 60 yard runs in training camp everyday which we didn't see in the regular season but I can fault him much, it's tough to get acclimate to the NFL and he did a good job at moving the chains and carrying the ball reliably, he should have a good season this year

Just before he hurt his heel he was leading the entire NFL in 3rd down conversions.

We have much bigger worries than Mark Ingram. I'm not worried about him in the least. He will bring it in 2012.

xan · 04-30-2012, 09:02 AM

Not to be snide (which is usually not an impediment for me), bragging about a back's ability to regularly break 60 yard runs against our defense is like bragging about your baby pooping.

Danno · 04-30-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Not to be snide (which is usually not an impediment for me), bragging about a back's ability to regularly break 60 yard runs against our defense is like bragging about your baby pooping.

But that baby was pooping much better than the other 3 babies.

Its relative.

Euphoria · 04-30-2012, 09:10 AM

My grand mother could rip 60 yards against our D.

hagan714 · 04-30-2012, 09:13 AM

jury is still out here. injury bug worried me in the draft.

04-30-2012, 08:40 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Mark Ingram.... Interesting what you hear about Mark Ingram after his first season with the Saints.... Some say he didn't preform well... Others say he didn't preform as expected.... I have heard we made a bad draft pick trade to get him (even though we would have lost that first round pick this year). In my opinion we shouldn't have expected too much from Ingram... Yes he was a first round draft pick and with that honor comes expectations... high ones at that. However, how much can you REALLY expect from a rookie with no preseason camps or training at all? Can you really expect a rookie to walk into a game with a new QB (to him), new play book (to him), new line (to him), and the pressure from actually playing in the NFL. Besides having little or no familiarity with what he is working with, he has to also become able to make decisions at a lot quicker pace than he is used to... This will be a good year to see how well Ingram will really pan out... Averaging 4 YPC in that environment is not bad at all as far as I see it. His season average was better than McGahee green-Elis Rice Halo and SapperSaint like this.
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04-30-2012, 08:49 AM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Wasn't it SP who said that the only thing keeping Ingram from being the rookie of the year was him (SP) by not giving him more snaps?! SapperSaint, Ashley, pherein and 2 others like this.

04-30-2012, 08:55 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by FinSaint Wasn't it SP who said that the only thing keeping Ingram from being the rookie of the year was him (SP) by not giving him more snaps?! Yep, thats exactly what he said. And many of the reports from camp were extremely complimentary. BGWhoDat likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by dizzle88 Quotes from camp said that Ingram was ripping off 60 yard runs in training camp everyday which we didn't see in the regular season but I can fault him much, it's tough to get acclimate to the NFL and he did a good job at moving the chains and carrying the ball reliably, he should have a good season this year Just before he hurt his heel he was leading the entire NFL in 3rd down conversions. We have much bigger worries than Mark Ingram. I'm not worried about him in the least. He will bring it in 2012. Halo and SapperSaint like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	I give him a C-plus for the season. He was durable in college but got too dinged up his rrokie year. He showed flashes of his burst and balance, but it seemed like he just seldom got into his groove. The fact that the coaches were raving about him all training camp and repeatedly told us we haven't even come close to seeing how good he is makes me excited to see his development this year. His best is yet to come.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Quotes from camp said that Ingram was ripping off 60 yard runs in training camp everyday which we didn't see in the regular season but I can fault him much, it's tough to get acclimate to the NFL and he did a good job at moving the chains and carrying the ball reliably, he should have a good season this year

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by xan Not to be snide (which is usually not an impediment for me), bragging about a back's ability to regularly break 60 yard runs against our defense is like bragging about your baby pooping. But that baby was pooping much better than the other 3 babies. Its relative. saintfan, SapperSaint and pherein like this.

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