Mark Ingram....

Danno · 04-30-2012, 08:13 AM

I don't remember that many huge runs against us. Definitely not like the Haslett years.

I just checked:

1 player had a 50+ yard run on us -DeAngelo Williamns broke one for 69. No other back broke 50 all year long..

jcp026 · 04-30-2012, 10:16 AM

I don't have a grade for Ingram, but I don't know why we drafted him. Why do you draft a workhorse running back when you don't give anyone on the team that many touches? Pierre Thomas is very good. Darren Sproles is incredible. Ivory runs hard. Ingram needs 20 touches and, in this offense at least, they aren't there to be had. Ingram could be great, but he won't get the touches.

Danno · 04-30-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

I don't have a grade for Ingram, but I don't know why we drafted him. Why do you draft a workhorse running back when you don't give anyone on the team that many touches? Pierre Thomas is very good. Darren Sproles is incredible. Ivory runs hard. Ingram needs 20 touches and, in this offense at least, they aren't there to be had. Ingram could be great, but he won't get the touches.

When we drafted him we didn't have 1 healthy RB on this team. Ivory had a surgery that has ended many an NFL career, and PT had ankle surgery. We weren't going to keep Bush so at the time it made perfect sense to grab a RB that can do it all. We had to draft a RB, and Ingram fell 10 spots below where most thought he'd be drafted.

PT and Ivory healing was fortunate and acquiring Sproles was pure genius.

sharke · 05-01-2012, 05:53 AM

I've felt some fans are way to hard on MI. Never got why people expect rookies to post insane numbers. Ingram got way too much flak for his failed run against Green Bay last year and people haven't let it go. The dude is what? 23. Give it time, way too early for bust talk on him.

Originally Posted by Danno

acquiring Sproles was pure genius.

agreed...and probably an understatement.....

FinSaint · 04-30-2012, 10:30 AM

And one could argue that not having to be the "work horse" with a huge amount of snaps during the course of a season could allow for him to have great longevity as opposed to someone like Marion Barber.

SaintGup · 04-30-2012, 11:27 AM

I like Ingram, I think he fitted in well with what we want our running backs to do. The only problem was injuries but I still think it was a good pick. Running Backs who come to us must know that they are not going to get 20+ carries a game. I love what we have and I think it was quite effective last season. Can't wait to see how our Defense turns out.

MistaBigXXL · 04-30-2012, 11:29 AM

Think about how the lack of depth at RB hurt us last year vs. San Francisco...

Rugby Saint II · 04-30-2012, 12:18 PM

We got Ingram when PT had reliability questions and Ivory seems to enjoy being hurt.....maybe he likes the attention.

We got crazy lucky with mighty mouse.

TheOak · 04-30-2012, 12:28 PM

I am sure the fact that the FO was about to get rid of Reggie also played into that.

darstep · 04-30-2012, 01:23 PM

Ingram had a pretty good rookie season IMO.
He seemed not to know what to do after he broke the line of scrimage untouched.
There were several instances where he could have broke outside or cut back and
got a boat load, but he ran right up blockers and defenders backs,
almost as if he wasn't looking. I'm sure he's been looking at footage and will
improve his open field vision for this season. Ingram has the tools to do everything
we need him to do: run, catch and protect. I hope he can find his groove, and he
and the other guys are able to stay healthy and productive.

04-30-2012, 10:16 AM	#2
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	I don't have a grade for Ingram, but I don't know why we drafted him. Why do you draft a workhorse running back when you don't give anyone on the team that many touches? Pierre Thomas is very good. Darren Sproles is incredible. Ivory runs hard. Ingram needs 20 touches and, in this offense at least, they aren't there to be had. Ingram could be great, but he won't get the touches. jeanpierre likes this.
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04-30-2012, 10:23 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Originally Posted by jcp026 I don't have a grade for Ingram, but I don't know why we drafted him. Why do you draft a workhorse running back when you don't give anyone on the team that many touches? Pierre Thomas is very good. Darren Sproles is incredible. Ivory runs hard. Ingram needs 20 touches and, in this offense at least, they aren't there to be had. Ingram could be great, but he won't get the touches. When we drafted him we didn't have 1 healthy RB on this team. Ivory had a surgery that has ended many an NFL career, and PT had ankle surgery. We weren't going to keep Bush so at the time it made perfect sense to grab a RB that can do it all. We had to draft a RB, and Ingram fell 10 spots below where most thought he'd be drafted. PT and Ivory healing was fortunate and acquiring Sproles was pure genius. Halo, SapperSaint, TheOak and 1 others like this.

05-01-2012, 05:53 AM	#4
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	I've felt some fans are way to hard on MI. Never got why people expect rookies to post insane numbers. Ingram got way too much flak for his failed run against Green Bay last year and people haven't let it go. The dude is what? 23. Give it time, way too early for bust talk on him. Originally Posted by Danno acquiring Sproles was pure genius. agreed...and probably an understatement..... Halo likes this.

04-30-2012, 10:30 AM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	And one could argue that not having to be the "work horse" with a huge amount of snaps during the course of a season could allow for him to have great longevity as opposed to someone like Marion Barber. Halo and TheOak like this.

04-30-2012, 11:27 AM	#6
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	I like Ingram, I think he fitted in well with what we want our running backs to do. The only problem was injuries but I still think it was a good pick. Running Backs who come to us must know that they are not going to get 20+ carries a game. I love what we have and I think it was quite effective last season. Can't wait to see how our Defense turns out. TheOak and 95shakinpf like this.

04-30-2012, 08:13 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	I don't remember that many huge runs against us. Definitely not like the Haslett years. I just checked: 1 player had a 50+ yard run on us -DeAngelo Williamns broke one for 69. No other back broke 50 all year long..

04-30-2012, 11:29 AM	#7
MistaBigXXL 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 133	Think about how the lack of depth at RB hurt us last year vs. San Francisco... TheOak likes this.

04-30-2012, 12:18 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	We got Ingram when PT had reliability questions and Ivory seems to enjoy being hurt.....maybe he likes the attention. We got crazy lucky with mighty mouse. Danno, SapperSaint, pherein and 1 others like this.

04-30-2012, 12:28 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	I am sure the fact that the FO was about to get rid of Reggie also played into that.

04-30-2012, 01:23 PM	#10
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Ingram had a pretty good rookie season IMO. He seemed not to know what to do after he broke the line of scrimage untouched. There were several instances where he could have broke outside or cut back and got a boat load, but he ran right up blockers and defenders backs, almost as if he wasn't looking. I'm sure he's been looking at footage and will improve his open field vision for this season. Ingram has the tools to do everything we need him to do: run, catch and protect. I hope he can find his groove, and he and the other guys are able to stay healthy and productive. Halo and pherein like this.
	SaintSince67

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