VILMA suspended for season....

05-02-2012, 02:14 PM

What i want to know is wtf did Hargrove sign...they keep hammering this **** .And the NFLPA can protest all they want, Goodell can care less

hitta · 05-02-2012, 02:15 PM

You know what the funny thing is, according to the NFL one of the major reasons that such a harsh suspension was given to Sean Payton was that the Saints organization ignored the NFL's warnings about using a bounty program. So what exactly is the logic behind the Scott Fujita and the Anthony Hargrove suspensions? As a matter of fact, how in the hell should Vilma and Sean Paytons suspensions be equal? Vilma didn't get no warning.

MistaBigXXL · 05-02-2012, 02:24 PM

I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch.

The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it.

hitta · 05-02-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL

I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch.

The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it.

Yea I agree. Also I was really looking forward to seeing some of the LB configurations we would have used with our new guys and Vilma.

darstep · 05-02-2012, 02:30 PM

I think with the new DQ Spagnuolo, the sets and the cadences will be different anyway.
I think Spags will bring a different focal point and priority list to the group.
I'm sure Vilma would have gobbled it up but I also think Lofton can handle it.
If the defense, with all it's newness, can just play middle pack, we are right back in it.

TheOak · 05-02-2012, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Goodells verdicts.

Players that have been spended for an entire season

Johnathan Vilma - Bounty program

Donté Stallworth - Manslaughter - DWI

Makes perfect sense.

Oops forgot to add

Michael Vick - brutally torturing and Killings dogs, while making money from the fights he hosted - 6 months.

W. Kovacs · 05-02-2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL

I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch.

This is what scares me most. He does for our D what Ryan Clark does for the Steelers, D. Look what happened to them in the playoffs without him on the field to assign coverages based on pre-snap looks. It's his leadership that will be truly missed.

I am hoping Lofton can pock up some of the slack there but I don't know much about him as a leader like that.

And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!!

alexonfyre · 05-02-2012, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

This is what scares me most. He does for our D what Ryan Clark does for the Steelers, D. Look what happened to them in the playoffs without him on the field to assign coverages based on pre-snap looks. It's his leadership that will be truly missed.

I am hoping Lofton can pock up some of the slack there but I don't know much about him as a leader like that.

And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!!

Underdog:

Scott Shanle:

There is a difference.

CharityMike · 05-02-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by W.Kovacs

And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!!

TheOak · 05-02-2012, 03:37 PM

Vilma WAS the QB of Williams's defense.

Spags, especially coming from a HC position will probably be more hands on.

Vilma called the shots in GW's defence, naturally that would make him the leader on the field.

Different DC, different methodology, etc...

It would be more damaging if GW were still the DC...

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05-02-2012, 02:15 PM	#112
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	You know what the funny thing is, according to the NFL one of the major reasons that such a harsh suspension was given to Sean Payton was that the Saints organization ignored the NFL's warnings about using a bounty program. So what exactly is the logic behind the Scott Fujita and the Anthony Hargrove suspensions? As a matter of fact, how in the hell should Vilma and Sean Paytons suspensions be equal? Vilma didn't get no warning.
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05-02-2012, 02:24 PM	#113
MistaBigXXL 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 133	I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch. The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it. sharke likes this.

05-02-2012, 02:29 PM	#114
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch. The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it. Yea I agree. Also I was really looking forward to seeing some of the LB configurations we would have used with our new guys and Vilma. sharke likes this.
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05-02-2012, 02:30 PM	#115
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	I think with the new DQ Spagnuolo, the sets and the cadences will be different anyway. I think Spags will bring a different focal point and priority list to the group. I'm sure Vilma would have gobbled it up but I also think Lofton can handle it. If the defense, with all it's newness, can just play middle pack, we are right back in it. CharityMike likes this.

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05-02-2012, 02:47 PM	#116
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Goodells verdicts. Players that have been spended for an entire season Johnathan Vilma - Bounty program Donté Stallworth - Manslaughter - DWI Makes perfect sense. Oops forgot to add Michael Vick - brutally torturing and Killings dogs, while making money from the fights he hosted - 6 months.

05-02-2012, 03:04 PM	#117
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch. This is what scares me most. He does for our D what Ryan Clark does for the Steelers, D. Look what happened to them in the playoffs without him on the field to assign coverages based on pre-snap looks. It's his leadership that will be truly missed. I am hoping Lofton can pock up some of the slack there but I don't know much about him as a leader like that. And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!!

05-02-2012, 03:14 PM	#118
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs This is what scares me most. He does for our D what Ryan Clark does for the Steelers, D. Look what happened to them in the playoffs without him on the field to assign coverages based on pre-snap looks. It's his leadership that will be truly missed. I am hoping Lofton can pock up some of the slack there but I don't know much about him as a leader like that. And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!! Underdog: Scott Shanle: There is a difference. Halo, pherein, FinSaint and 3 others like this.

05-02-2012, 03:16 PM	#119
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by W.Kovacs And at the risk of incurring an " internet slap" I would love to see Shanle step into that leadership role. I can't help to root for the underdog and if Shanle's not an underdog around here, I don't know who is!! Halo and pherein like this.

05-02-2012, 03:37 PM	#120
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Vilma WAS the QB of Williams's defense. Spags, especially coming from a HC position will probably be more hands on. Vilma called the shots in GW's defence, naturally that would make him the leader on the field. Different DC, different methodology, etc... It would be more damaging if GW were still the DC... Halo likes this.

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