VILMA suspended for season....

05-02-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

so with Smith out for the first 4 games, does Junior start? and does Lofton or Hawthorne take over for Vilma? I assume Lofton and Hawthorne will be on the field at the same time?

I'd assume the depth chart looks like
LDE-Jordan
DT-Ellis
DT-Bunkley
RDE-Galette

SLB-Wilson
MLB-Lofton
WLB-Hawthorne

I can live with that.

FinSaint · 05-02-2012, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

so with Smith out for the first 4 games, does Junior start? and does Lofton or Hawthorne take over for Vilma? I assume Lofton and Hawthorne will be on the field at the same time?

Hard to say about Gallette, I guess it all depends on the camps and preseason, and what Romeus' health situation will be at the start of the season.

We don't know how Jordan has developed/progressed during this time of and how that will carry through to the off-season workouts and preseason, so he could be a strong candidate for a starting role.

Hawthorne played Will with the Seahawks, so I guess the logical thing would be to see Lofton as the Mike, but there'll definitely be quite a lot of rotation and substitutions going on within the LB corps within the span of the game.

FinSaint · 05-02-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd assume the depth chart looks like
LDE-Jordan
DT-Ellis
DT-Bunkley
RDE-Galette

SLB-Wilson
MLB-Lofton
WLB-Hawthorne

I can live with that.

That would certainly be a nice front 7 with a group of good talent still on the rotation.

burningmetal · 05-02-2012, 06:04 PM

I was was 99% sure Vilma would miss the whole season, as soon as Payton's suspension came out. Roger likes to make example's of people, so it was obvious this was going to happen to Vilma.

biloxi-indian · 05-02-2012, 06:06 PM

The NFL (RG) is between a rock and hard spot. With Vilma's PR it appears he is prepared to challenge his suspension in court if necessary. If RG or a court reduces or dismisses Vilma's suspension, how is the NFL (RG) going to maintain Payton, Loomis, and Vitt's (even Williams) suspensions.

Vilma will have the NFLPA on his side.

If RG upholds Vilma's suspension, then to court Vilma will go. Might take time, but RG had better have his lawyers and ducks in a row!!!!!!

IMHO, this "could" get interesting.

pherein · 05-02-2012, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

The NFL (RG) is between a rock and hard spot. With Vilma's PR it appears he is prepared to challenge his suspension in court if necessary. If RG or a court reduces or dismisses Vilma's suspension, how is the NFL (RG) going to maintain Payton, Loomis, and Vitt's (even Williams) suspensions.

If Vilma wins in court, the floodgates will open and every person suspend will follow suit. They can all make easy money suing the NFL. Some will wait 5 years, some like SP, I imagine will sue immediately.
Not sure if Benson would sue, he's more a part of the NFL.

lynwood · 05-02-2012, 06:22 PM

Dookie.

foreverfan · 05-02-2012, 06:27 PM

Hey Godell... Suck on this you cork soaker.

voodooido · 05-02-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL

I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch.

The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it.

Cut Vilma and sign him as a advisor for the lb corps. Resign next year if it deems ness which I doubt it will.

FinSaint · 05-02-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Cut Vilma and sign him as a advisor for the lb corps. Resign next year if it deems ness which I doubt it will.

They'll gain more cap space by him being suspended (base salary won't count towards the cap) than they would if they were to cut him.

05-02-2012, 05:58 PM	#131
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| so with Smith out for the first 4 games, does Junior start? and does Lofton or Hawthorne take over for Vilma? I assume Lofton and Hawthorne will be on the field at the same time? I'd assume the depth chart looks like LDE-Jordan DT-Ellis DT-Bunkley RDE-Galette SLB-Wilson MLB-Lofton WLB-Hawthorne I can live with that.
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05-02-2012, 05:59 PM	#132
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| so with Smith out for the first 4 games, does Junior start? and does Lofton or Hawthorne take over for Vilma? I assume Lofton and Hawthorne will be on the field at the same time? Hard to say about Gallette, I guess it all depends on the camps and preseason, and what Romeus' health situation will be at the start of the season. We don't know how Jordan has developed/progressed during this time of and how that will carry through to the off-season workouts and preseason, so he could be a strong candidate for a starting role. Hawthorne played Will with the Seahawks, so I guess the logical thing would be to see Lofton as the Mike, but there'll definitely be quite a lot of rotation and substitutions going on within the LB corps within the span of the game.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

05-02-2012, 06:01 PM	#133
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Danno I'd assume the depth chart looks like LDE-Jordan DT-Ellis DT-Bunkley RDE-Galette SLB-Wilson MLB-Lofton WLB-Hawthorne I can live with that. That would certainly be a nice front 7 with a group of good talent still on the rotation.

05-02-2012, 06:14 PM	#136
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by biloxi-indian The NFL (RG) is between a rock and hard spot. With Vilma's PR it appears he is prepared to challenge his suspension in court if necessary. If RG or a court reduces or dismisses Vilma's suspension, how is the NFL (RG) going to maintain Payton, Loomis, and Vitt's (even Williams) suspensions. If Vilma wins in court, the floodgates will open and every person suspend will follow suit. They can all make easy money suing the NFL. Some will wait 5 years, some like SP, I imagine will sue immediately. Not sure if Benson would sue, he's more a part of the NFL.

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05-02-2012, 06:04 PM	#134
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	I was was 99% sure Vilma would miss the whole season, as soon as Payton's suspension came out. Roger likes to make example's of people, so it was obvious this was going to happen to Vilma.

05-02-2012, 06:06 PM	#135
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	The NFL (RG) is between a rock and hard spot. With Vilma's PR it appears he is prepared to challenge his suspension in court if necessary. If RG or a court reduces or dismisses Vilma's suspension, how is the NFL (RG) going to maintain Payton, Loomis, and Vitt's (even Williams) suspensions. Vilma will have the NFLPA on his side. If RG upholds Vilma's suspension, then to court Vilma will go. Might take time, but RG had better have his lawyers and ducks in a row!!!!!! IMHO, this "could" get interesting.

05-02-2012, 06:22 PM	#137
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05-02-2012, 06:41 PM	#139
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL I believe this is going to hurt us a lot more than some of you guys think (Most importantly Vilma). He was the "quarterback" of our defense, and even though his physical play has declined a bit, his football intelligence was top notch. The bright spot is that the organization planned for this situation and made some great moves in the off season that will help us deal with it. Cut Vilma and sign him as a advisor for the lb corps. Resign next year if it deems ness which I doubt it will.
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05-02-2012, 07:00 PM	#140
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by voodooido Cut Vilma and sign him as a advisor for the lb corps. Resign next year if it deems ness which I doubt it will. They'll gain more cap space by him being suspended (base salary won't count towards the cap) than they would if they were to cut him.

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