The Union Weighs in On Player Punishments

Ashley · 05-02-2012, 10:06 PM

And don't say it can't be! If this was a man then before?

Halo · 05-02-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't know if we'll hear from Fujita, but I bet his wife will chime in.

I just got out the shower with her, she's pretty ticked off... gotta run guys, it's time for the towel!

NOLA54 · 05-02-2012, 11:19 PM

Remember when they were rporting therewere 22 players out of 27 who participated? Well, how come only 4 players have been suspended? Because they can't prove it!

SaintGup · 05-03-2012, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I don't know???? Kinda of, could of, be a man at some point?

Maybe Goodell used to be a man too. What do you think?

pherein · 05-03-2012, 05:00 AM

hmmm its already starting to turn toward godell, lol, that was quick.

Trust Goodell without proof?
New Orleans Saints Bountygate players Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith suspended - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

NOS2SB · 05-03-2012, 05:01 AM

SHOW US THE EVIDENCE!!!!!

pherein · 05-03-2012, 05:10 AM

LOL, Time to go to court Godell. See your suspension in place after Vilma retires .

Courts could delay player suspensions in Saints' bounty scandal for months, if not years
Courts could delay player suspensions in Saints' bounty scandal for months, if not years - Yahoo! Sports

Vilma has retained the services of New York-based attorney Peter Ginsberg, the same attorney who successfully defended Vikings defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams in the "Starcaps" case.
Ginsberg declined to say what exact course of action he would take in Vilma's defense. However, another source said Ginsberg was advising the players to "go rogue" and sue the league over this matter. At least one other player has spoken with Ginsberg about representation, but so far only Vilma has retained him.

LOL

Slow enough that one attorney with knowledge of the case said he believes the suspensions of current and former Saints players Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove aren't months away from being decided.
Try years.

pherein · 05-03-2012, 05:18 AM

Im actually going to enjoy this part

Ex-Saint: Players will fight suspensions to Supreme Court

Ex-Saint: Players will fight suspensions to Supreme Court

"De Smith is not gonna put up with his players getting penalized without a paper trail," said Evans. "It's an uphill battle to suspend a player for eight games (or more) without hard evidence.

"They will probably fight this thing all the way to the Supreme Court."

FinSaint · 05-03-2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

hmmm its already starting to turn toward godell, lol, that was quick.

Trust Goodell without proof?
New Orleans Saints Bountygate players Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith suspended - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

Thanks pherein for the good read!

papz · 05-03-2012, 07:41 AM

"The evidence conclusively demonstrated that from 2009-11, Saints players of their own accord pledged significant amounts of their own money toward bounties, that players accepted payments for "cart-offs" and "knockouts" of injured opposing players, and that the payout amounts doubled and tripled for playoff games," Goodell said in a statement.

The NFL Players Association released a statement on the suspensions that asks for the evidence used to determine the punishments.

"After seeing the NFL's decision letters, the NFLPA has still not received any detailed or specific evidence from the league of these specific players' involvement in an alleged pay-to-injure program," NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith said. "We have made it clear that punishment without evidence is not fair. We have spoken with our players and their representatives and we will vigorously protect and pursue all options on their behalf."

NFL Roundup: Vilma suspended for 2012, vows to fight; Seau found dead - Yahoo! Sports

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by saintfan I don't know if we'll hear from Fujita, but I bet his wife will chime in. I just got out the shower with her, she's pretty ticked off... gotta run guys, it's time for the towel! saintfan, SmashMouth and pherein like this.

05-03-2012, 03:48 AM	#14
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Originally Posted by Ashley I don't know???? Kinda of, could of, be a man at some point? Maybe Goodell used to be a man too. What do you think? Danno and Ashley like this.

05-03-2012, 05:10 AM	#17
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	LOL, Time to go to court Godell. See your suspension in place after Vilma retires . Courts could delay player suspensions in Saints' bounty scandal for months, if not years Courts could delay player suspensions in Saints' bounty scandal for months, if not years - Yahoo! Sports Vilma has retained the services of New York-based attorney Peter Ginsberg, the same attorney who successfully defended Vikings defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams in the "Starcaps" case. Ginsberg declined to say what exact course of action he would take in Vilma's defense. However, another source said Ginsberg was advising the players to "go rogue" and sue the league over this matter. At least one other player has spoken with Ginsberg about representation, but so far only Vilma has retained him. LOL Slow enough that one attorney with knowledge of the case said he believes the suspensions of current and former Saints players Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove aren't months away from being decided. Try years.
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05-03-2012, 05:18 AM	#18
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Im actually going to enjoy this part Ex-Saint: Players will fight suspensions to Supreme Court Ex-Saint: Players will fight suspensions to Supreme Court "De Smith is not gonna put up with his players getting penalized without a paper trail," said Evans. "It's an uphill battle to suspend a player for eight games (or more) without hard evidence. "They will probably fight this thing all the way to the Supreme Court."
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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	hmmm its already starting to turn toward godell, lol, that was quick. Trust Goodell without proof? New Orleans Saints Bountygate players Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith suspended - NFL News \| FOX Sports on MSN

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by pherein hmmm its already starting to turn toward godell, lol, that was quick. Trust Goodell without proof? New Orleans Saints Bountygate players Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith suspended - NFL News \| FOX Sports on MSN Thanks pherein for the good read!

05-03-2012, 07:41 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	"The evidence conclusively demonstrated that from 2009-11, Saints players of their own accord pledged significant amounts of their own money toward bounties, that players accepted payments for "cart-offs" and "knockouts" of injured opposing players, and that the payout amounts doubled and tripled for playoff games," Goodell said in a statement. The NFL Players Association released a statement on the suspensions that asks for the evidence used to determine the punishments. "After seeing the NFL's decision letters, the NFLPA has still not received any detailed or specific evidence from the league of these specific players' involvement in an alleged pay-to-injure program," NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith said. "We have made it clear that punishment without evidence is not fair. We have spoken with our players and their representatives and we will vigorously protect and pursue all options on their behalf." NFL Roundup: Vilma suspended for 2012, vows to fight; Seau found dead - Yahoo! Sports
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