Settlement conference set in bounty cases for July 23

07-08-2012, 11:38 AM

Regardless, a settlement of any of the claims will be difficult if not impossible to negotiate because the players believe there should be no suspension at all, and because the NFL surely wouldn’t wipe out the suspensions entirely. That leaves no middle ground for a compromise.

It’s possible that, before July 23, a hearing will be conducted regarding the players’ request for a preliminary injunction blocking the suspensions pending the outcome of the litigation. Since Vilma’s one-year suspension is effective immediately, he can’t report for training camp absent an injunction preventing the suspensions from being implemented.

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saintsfan1976 · 07-08-2012, 12:55 PM

Release the "evidence" !!!

Rugby Saint II · 07-08-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Release the "evidence" !!!

Damn it!!!

Halo · 07-08-2012, 07:28 PM

OH NO GOODELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY THAT EASY...
NOT THIS TIME!

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TheOak · 07-09-2012, 07:37 AM

Good.

The Judge will mediate and a happy medium will be reached. I expect there will be an allocution requirements on behalf of the players and suspensions will be cut in 1/2.

mikesaintfan · 07-09-2012, 08:33 AM

too bad coach wont get his suspention cut in half

TheOak · 07-09-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

too bad coach wont get his suspention cut in half

Well that "may" depend on how big the players balls are... I would definitely pitch that in my first proposal.

Reach for the stars and settle on the moon.

Halo · 07-09-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Well that "may" depend on how big the players balls are... I would definitely pitch that in my first proposal.

Reach for the stars and settle on the moon.

Players really can't have any impact on Sean Payton etc.
The Coaches apparently have their own Union, which is obviously toothless when it comes to the NFL. I didn't even know they had one until Florio or someone mentioned it in an article... yea that toothless and disorganized.

But if the judge and jury rule against the NFL in the case of abuse of discretionary powers, look for that union to "wake up" and file a grievance with the league, and if rejected file a case against the NFL based on the rulings of the players trial.

Remember when all the NFL nerds and hacks were *****ing a few weeks back that Vilma refused to "go under" Goodell and the NFL rule during the Kangaroo Court Goodell was running for the appeal?

That was a LEGAL exercise that somewhat suspended Goodell's ruling, basically sending it to the federal courts where they could get an impartial arbitrator in a court and jury.

Had Vilma and the players each stood there and let Goodell have his way with them, like "good boys," it would have been easier for the federal court to argue that a decision was made by an employer (Goodell) as per a pre-defined process (CBA), and awarded the NFL summary judgement.

Vilma resisted the NFL appeals process claiming it was unfair, and it was. Now a court of law will look at how unfair that process actually was.

saintfan · 07-09-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Players really can't have any impact on Sean Payton etc.
The Coaches apparently have their own Union, which is obviously toothless when it comes to the NFL. I didn't even know they had one until Florio or someone mentioned it in an article... yea that toothless and disorganized.

But if the judge and jury rule against the NFL in the case of abuse of discretionary powers, look for that union to "wake up" and file a grievance with the league, and if rejected file a case against the NFL based on the rulings of the players trial.

Remember when all the NFL nerds and hacks were *****ing a few weeks back that Vilma refused to "go under" Goodell and the NFL rule during the Kangaroo Court Goodell was running for the appeal?

That was a LEGAL exercise that somewhat suspended Goodell's ruling, basically sending it to the federal courts where they could get an impartial arbitrator in a court and jury.

Had Vilma and the players each stood there and let Goodell have his way with them, like "good boys," it would have been easier for the federal court to argue that a decision was made by an employer (Goodell) as per a pre-defined process (CBA), and awarded the NFL summary judgement.

Vilma resisted the NFL appeals process claiming it was unfair, and it was. Now a court of law will look at how unfair that process actually was.

Yep. And none of this had to happen. All Roger had to do what produce the evidence he claimed to have. Why didn't he?

Well...either...

(a) he doesn't have what he says he has or
(b) he knows his sources aren't credible or
(c) he's trying to do the right thing and protect the sources

Roger Goodell and "do the right thing" don't match. So "C" is out. We know this because he's lied under oath and has destroyed evidence. Either "A" or "B", and maybe both, are pretty good bets.

TXGSP · 07-09-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Players really can't have any impact on Sean Payton etc.
The Coaches apparently have their own Union, which is obviously toothless when it comes to the NFL. I didn't even know they had one until Florio or someone mentioned it in an article... yea that toothless and disorganized.

The NFLCA (Coaches Union) has the almost the same leadership as the NFLPA. D. Smith and the other main party in the NFLCA are arguing over leadership. There was a lawsuit filed by the NFLPA against the NFLCA over money for office space.

Even if the NFLCA could do something about the coaches suspensions, how many coaches are members? I had never heard of the NFLCA (prior to a few months ago), so it may not have been around long enough to have any power. If they are tied to the NFLPA and the coaches are members they should finally bare their teeth and go after Der Furher.

07-08-2012, 11:38 AM	#1
Threaded by WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046 Rating: (0 votes - average) Regardless, a settlement of any of the claims will be difficult if not impossible to negotiate because the players believe there should be no suspension at all, and because the NFL surely wouldn’t wipe out the suspensions entirely. That leaves no middle ground for a compromise. It’s possible that, before July 23, a hearing will be conducted regarding the players’ request for a preliminary injunction blocking the suspensions pending the outcome of the litigation. Since Vilma’s one-year suspension is effective immediately, he can’t report for training camp absent an injunction preventing the suspensions from being implemented. Settlement conference set in bounty cases for July 23 \| ProFootballTalk Last edited by Halo; 07-08-2012 at 07:22 PM..
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Good. The Judge will mediate and a happy medium will be reached. I expect there will be an allocution requirements on behalf of the players and suspensions will be cut in 1/2.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Well that "may" depend on how big the players balls are... I would definitely pitch that in my first proposal. Reach for the stars and settle on the moon. Players really can't have any impact on Sean Payton etc. The Coaches apparently have their own Union, which is obviously toothless when it comes to the NFL. I didn't even know they had one until Florio or someone mentioned it in an article... yea that toothless and disorganized. But if the judge and jury rule against the NFL in the case of abuse of discretionary powers, look for that union to "wake up" and file a grievance with the league, and if rejected file a case against the NFL based on the rulings of the players trial. Remember when all the NFL nerds and hacks were *ing a few weeks back that Vilma refused to "go under" Goodell and the NFL rule during the Kangaroo Court Goodell was running for the appeal? That was a LEGAL exercise that somewhat suspended Goodell's ruling, basically sending it to the federal courts where they could get an impartial arbitrator in a court and jury. Had Vilma and the players each stood there and let Goodell have his way with them, like "good boys," it would have been easier for the federal court to argue that a decision was made by an employer (Goodell) as per a pre-defined process (CBA), and awarded the NFL summary judgement. Vilma resisted the NFL appeals process claiming it was unfair, and it was. Now a court of law will look at how unfair that process actually was.
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07-09-2012, 12:34 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Halo Players really can't have any impact on Sean Payton etc. The Coaches apparently have their own Union, which is obviously toothless when it comes to the NFL. I didn't even know they had one until Florio or someone mentioned it in an article... yea that toothless and disorganized. But if the judge and jury rule against the NFL in the case of abuse of discretionary powers, look for that union to "wake up" and file a grievance with the league, and if rejected file a case against the NFL based on the rulings of the players trial. Remember when all the NFL nerds and hacks were *ing a few weeks back that Vilma refused to "go under" Goodell and the NFL rule during the Kangaroo Court Goodell was running for the appeal? That was a LEGAL exercise that somewhat suspended Goodell's ruling, basically sending it to the federal courts where they could get an impartial arbitrator in a court and jury. Had Vilma and the players each stood there and let Goodell have his way with them, like "good boys," it would have been easier for the federal court to argue that a decision was made by an employer (Goodell) as per a pre-defined process (CBA), and awarded the NFL summary judgement. Vilma resisted the NFL appeals process claiming it was unfair, and it was. Now a court of law will look at how unfair that process actually was. Yep. And none of this had to happen. All Roger had to do what produce the evidence he claimed to have. Why didn't he? Well...either... (a) he doesn't have what he says he has or (b) he knows his sources aren't credible or (c) he's trying to do the right thing and protect the sources Roger Goodell and "do the right thing" don't match. So "C" is out. We know this because he's lied under oath and has destroyed evidence. Either "A" or "B", and maybe both, are pretty good bets.

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