Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations

saintsfan1976 · 08-22-2012, 05:26 PM

I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th.

Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation?

What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about?

If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it?

What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans?

Finally, what do you think will be the verdict?

papz · 08-22-2012, 05:43 PM

Verdict - Vilma sues, wins, buy a mansion in Miami, and retires.

He's 30 and coming off multiple knee surgeries. He probably wouldn't pass a physical right now and is in no shape to contribute anywhere in the near future.

Best outcome, Payton sees an opportunity to capitalize and gets re-instated ASAP.

Ashley · 08-22-2012, 05:48 PM

Really all good questions, who knows what the answer is to Benson meeting with him. But I am sure they did discuss the case.

Yes it is strange we have not heard a word about this? Only because there was not a day that went by without something being said.

Strange for the NFL to have said they have "over 50000 pages of evidence" yet only gave up 160 or 180 pages to the court. So where is all this so called evidence?

Well I would say Benson and Goofdell are talking about the true area 51 being built under the superdome, thats what they want to hide from us.

Verdict.. I truly want the NFl to hang on this. But my gut says otherwise, Goofdell holds office and nothing changes.

Halo · 08-22-2012, 05:56 PM

I can't believe the NFL will let this go to the 30th. They may be in settlement discussions, but who knows.

If a ruling comes through August 30th in favor of Vilma, that means this thing moves on. Discovery is next. That's when Goodell will get caught with nothing that is admissible in court.

Civil trial will move much faster than one of those drama filled criminal cases.
If Vilma gets the ruling, it could be weeks before trial starts.

TXGSP · 08-22-2012, 06:17 PM

Not sure there is much progress towards any settlement - something would have been "LEAKED". It has happened too much during this entire situation.

I really don't expect anything prior to the 30th - even if it is nothing more than the court accepting the case. The judge may be waiting to see what the last appeal produces - to see what the legal ramifications are. The judge may still not see a legal way to reverse anything that would not be overturned and not issue a ruling.

If anything pushes this to being viewed as a salary cap violation, I think Benson will become outspoken and very harsh of the league office (may not speak publically though). It may give Benson the upperhand to make a move - it is "his" team. Suspensions are not a possible punishment for the FO, coaches, or players and Benson could force the issue to get them removed.

I'm still not completely convinced Payton and Vitt will not be on the sidelines (Loomis in his box) for the opener of the season (several things are still outstanding that could go either way to prevent that, but it is still a possibility).

AsylumGuido · 08-22-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th.

Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation?

What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about?

If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it?

What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans?

Finally, what do you think will be the verdict?

There isn't anymore evidence.

thefifthwall · 08-22-2012, 06:38 PM

Just a what if to think about... What if the whistleblower is a current player/coach/employee...wouldn't things be proceeding accordingly?
Just a thought

Halo · 08-22-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by thefifthwall

Just a what if to think about... What if the whistleblower is a current player/coach/employee...wouldn't things be proceeding accordingly?
Just a thought

Interesting thought BUT I'm pretty sure many feel like that whistle-blower is a coward hiding behind Goodell. Probably a former employee....

The Dude · 08-22-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th.

Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation?

What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about?

If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it?

What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans?

Finally, what do you think will be the verdict?

Seems like every week I hear there could be a ruling.even if he is reinstated i doubt he would be able to play right away.

saintsfan1976 · 08-22-2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Seems like every week I hear there could be a ruling.even if he is reinstated i doubt he would be able to play right away.

At this point, having Vilma ready to "play" is least of my concerns.

I'm more concerned with what is behind the curtain. This topic has been red hot for weeks and now, all of a sudden, it's crickets...

My fear is that the league (and commish) is more mighty than we thought and the league would be vulnerable to whatever has been delayed from our view.

08-22-2012, 05:26 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,529 Blog Entries: 3	Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th. Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation? What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about? If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it? What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans? Finally, what do you think will be the verdict?

08-22-2012, 05:43 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Verdict - Vilma sues, wins, buy a mansion in Miami, and retires. He's 30 and coming off multiple knee surgeries. He probably wouldn't pass a physical right now and is in no shape to contribute anywhere in the near future. Best outcome, Payton sees an opportunity to capitalize and gets re-instated ASAP. Halo, SapperSaint and WhoDat!656 like this.
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08-22-2012, 05:48 PM	#3
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Really all good questions, who knows what the answer is to Benson meeting with him. But I am sure they did discuss the case. Yes it is strange we have not heard a word about this? Only because there was not a day that went by without something being said. Strange for the NFL to have said they have "over 50000 pages of evidence" yet only gave up 160 or 180 pages to the court. So where is all this so called evidence? Well I would say Benson and Goofdell are talking about the true area 51 being built under the superdome, thats what they want to hide from us. Verdict.. I truly want the NFl to hang on this. But my gut says otherwise, Goofdell holds office and nothing changes.
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08-22-2012, 05:56 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,204 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations I can't believe the NFL will let this go to the 30th. They may be in settlement discussions, but who knows. If a ruling comes through August 30th in favor of Vilma, that means this thing moves on. Discovery is next. That's when Goodell will get caught with nothing that is admissible in court. Civil trial will move much faster than one of those drama filled criminal cases. If Vilma gets the ruling, it could be weeks before trial starts.

08-22-2012, 06:17 PM	#5
TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Not sure there is much progress towards any settlement - something would have been "LEAKED". It has happened too much during this entire situation. I really don't expect anything prior to the 30th - even if it is nothing more than the court accepting the case. The judge may be waiting to see what the last appeal produces - to see what the legal ramifications are. The judge may still not see a legal way to reverse anything that would not be overturned and not issue a ruling. If anything pushes this to being viewed as a salary cap violation, I think Benson will become outspoken and very harsh of the league office (may not speak publically though). It may give Benson the upperhand to make a move - it is "his" team. Suspensions are not a possible punishment for the FO, coaches, or players and Benson could force the issue to get them removed. I'm still not completely convinced Payton and Vitt will not be on the sidelines (Loomis in his box) for the opener of the season (several things are still outstanding that could go either way to prevent that, but it is still a possibility).
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08-22-2012, 06:24 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th. Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation? What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about? If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it? What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans? Finally, what do you think will be the verdict? There isn't anymore evidence. saintfan likes this.

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thefifthwall 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 121	Just a what if to think about... What if the whistleblower is a current player/coach/employee...wouldn't things be proceeding accordingly? Just a thought
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08-22-2012, 06:44 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,204 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Originally Posted by thefifthwall Just a what if to think about... What if the whistleblower is a current player/coach/employee...wouldn't things be proceeding accordingly? Just a thought Interesting thought BUT I'm pretty sure many feel like that whistle-blower is a coward hiding behind Goodell. Probably a former employee....

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I've read that we could hear a ruling as early as August 30th. Does anyone else think it's strange that we haven't heard much of anything since the NFL responded to the court's request for documentation? What do you think Benson really met with Goodell about? If there is more "evidence", then why haven't we seen or heard it? What do you think it is - if anything - the NFL and possibly Benson are hiding from the fans? Finally, what do you think will be the verdict? Seems like every week I hear there could be a ruling.even if he is reinstated i doubt he would be able to play right away.
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08-22-2012, 07:12 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,529 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vilma vs the NFL - Your Expectations Originally Posted by The Dude Seems like every week I hear there could be a ruling.even if he is reinstated i doubt he would be able to play right away. At this point, having Vilma ready to "play" is least of my concerns. I'm more concerned with what is behind the curtain. This topic has been red hot for weeks and now, all of a sudden, it's crickets... My fear is that the league (and commish) is more mighty than we thought and the league would be vulnerable to whatever has been delayed from our view. Ashley likes this.

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