PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams

TheOak · 09-07-2012, 05:35 PM

Players punishment was vacated because Goodell was out side of his jurisdiction according to the CBA...

REMEMBER TWO THINGS:
Coaches are not part of the CBA.
Sean Payton already admitted to it and apologized.

|Mitch| · 09-07-2012, 05:36 PM

This definitely gives Sean some serious legal ammunition though

Ashley · 09-07-2012, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

This definitely gives Sean some serious legal ammunition though

Just heard on wwl with a lawyer giving legal advice on this, No way does this help SP. Sorry man, I wanted it too

SmashMouth · 09-07-2012, 05:47 PM

yeah...but it is a huge black eye on the league....they will have to do something soon.

homerj07 · 09-07-2012, 06:33 PM

The audio of GW may be what screws the coaches

Rugby Saint II · 09-07-2012, 06:54 PM

If all coaches are held accountable for their underlings behavior then why the Hell can't the owner be held responsible?(in no way am I implying anything about Benson) My point is where the Hell do you draw the line???
Bring back the coaches. Give them a heavy fine and be done with it. Acts of mercy are generally looked favorably upon. And Der Kommisar could use some good PR about right now.

alexonfyre · 09-07-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If all coaches are held accountable for their underlings behavior then why the Hell can't the owner be held responsible?(in no way am I implying anything about Benson) My point is where the Hell do you draw the line???
Bring back the coaches. Give them a heavy fine and be done with it. Acts of mercy are generally looked favorably upon. And Der Kommisar could use some good PR about right now.

Apparently they draw it at the General Manager....

|Mitch| · 09-07-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Apparently they draw it at the General Manager....

technically not true; they held Benson responsible with a $500,000 fine...

SteveInSF · 09-07-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

REMEMBER TWO THINGS:
Coaches are not part of the CBA.
Sean Payton already admitted to it and apologized.

Did he? I recall Williams admitting to a pay-for-performance system, which we all know is different, but I do not recall Payton admitting to anything.

ChrisXVI · 09-07-2012, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by SteveInSF

Did he? I recall Williams admitting to a pay-for-performance system, which we all know is different, but I do not recall Payton admitting to anything.

Exactly! Sean didn't admit to a bounty program. He admitted that there was a pay for performance system in place. As far as I'm concerned if the players are practically exonerated of having a "bounty program" then it's freaking absurd that Payton should still suffer. God the NFL is such a joke nowadays... Thanks Herr Goddell.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Players punishment was vacated because Goodell was out side of his jurisdiction according to the CBA... REMEMBER TWO THINGS: Coaches are not part of the CBA. Sean Payton already admitted to it and apologized.

09-07-2012, 05:36 PM	#12
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams This definitely gives Sean some serious legal ammunition though

09-07-2012, 05:45 PM	#13
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| This definitely gives Sean some serious legal ammunition though Just heard on wwl with a lawyer giving legal advice on this, No way does this help SP. Sorry man, I wanted it too

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams yeah...but it is a huge black eye on the league....they will have to do something soon.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams If all coaches are held accountable for their underlings behavior then why the Hell can't the owner be held responsible?(in no way am I implying anything about Benson) My point is where the Hell do you draw the line??? Bring back the coaches. Give them a heavy fine and be done with it. Acts of mercy are generally looked favorably upon. And Der Kommisar could use some good PR about right now.

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alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If all coaches are held accountable for their underlings behavior then why the Hell can't the owner be held responsible?(in no way am I implying anything about Benson) My point is where the Hell do you draw the line??? Bring back the coaches. Give them a heavy fine and be done with it. Acts of mercy are generally looked favorably upon. And Der Kommisar could use some good PR about right now. Apparently they draw it at the General Manager....

09-07-2012, 06:59 PM	#18
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Originally Posted by alexonfyre Apparently they draw it at the General Manager.... technically not true; they held Benson responsible with a $500,000 fine...

09-07-2012, 08:55 PM	#19
SteveInSF Rookie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 24	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Originally Posted by x626xBlack REMEMBER TWO THINGS: Coaches are not part of the CBA. Sean Payton already admitted to it and apologized. Did he? I recall Williams admitting to a pay-for-performance system, which we all know is different, but I do not recall Payton admitting to anything.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: PFT Today’s ruling means nothing to Payton, Vitt, Loomis, Williams Originally Posted by SteveInSF Did he? I recall Williams admitting to a pay-for-performance system, which we all know is different, but I do not recall Payton admitting to anything. Exactly! Sean didn't admit to a bounty program. He admitted that there was a pay for performance system in place. As far as I'm concerned if the players are practically exonerated of having a "bounty program" then it's freaking absurd that Payton should still suffer. God the NFL is such a joke nowadays... Thanks Herr Goddell.

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