Trust in Spags?

Supertek · 09-10-2012, 08:47 AM

There is a long way for us to go to be an elite team. Sean Payton is sorely missed. It is only one game but a whooper of a disappointment.

BusDriver · 09-10-2012, 09:04 AM

I go to watch it at a sportsbar here in town, defense looked bad, missed tackles, no pressure on RGIII. As bad as it was, at least they had a shot to try & tie at the end of the game. They should be able to look back at this game & correct themselves. 2 big plays that changed the Colstons fumble/touchback & the Harper pi call, if neither happened who knows.

Mardigras9 · 09-10-2012, 09:53 AM

First game, that counted. The Skins had a good game plan and our D (our team for that matter) was unable to get into a rhythm. Plus the D is a little thin. I see major adjustments in the next week. We have to go to Carolina and Newton presents alot of the same problems RG3 did.

SaintsBro · 09-10-2012, 11:20 AM

I sat there looking at the scoreboard all through the game and doing the math, and knowing that every time we scored we'd still have to kick off to the Redskins, and they would dutifully march down the field and score again at will, against our defense. From about the early third quarter on, it was really only ever a question in my mind of whether we would lose by one score or two. Because we couldn't freaking stop them. At all!

Even after the blocked punt, it was like, yay, yippie, but to start the third quarter we still gotta kick off to the Redskins again, so tack on at least another 7 to the score before our offense even sees the field again. I actually felt like we should have tried an "Ambush" in there somewhere, because we desperately needed possessions. And their scoring was almost inevitable and guaranteed, once they had the ball it was only a question of a is it a 3 or a 7. It was that ugly.

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I sat there looking at the scoreboard all through the game and doing the math, and knowing that every time we scored we'd still have to kick off to the Redskins, and they would dutifully march down the field and score again at will, against our defense. From about the early third quarter on, it was really only ever a question in my mind of whether we would lose by one score or two. Because we couldn't freaking stop them. At all!

Even after the blocked punt, it was like, yay, yippie, but to start the third quarter we still gotta kick off to the Redskins again, so tack on at least another 7 to the score before our offense even sees the field again. I actually felt like we should have tried an "Ambush" in there somewhere, because we desperately needed possessions. And their scoring was almost inevitable and guaranteed, once they had the ball it was only a question of a is it a 3 or a 7. It was that ugly.

Yep. These are (were) my thoughts too. I realize the defense was put in some bad positions. Regardless, they simply were not able to stop the Redskins - and frankly I knew it was going to be a long day from the opening drive.

leilung · 09-10-2012, 12:47 PM

I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right.

So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season.

Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late!

Haps Biggest Fan · 09-10-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right.

So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season.

Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late!

One thing I notice about all Fan Message Boards for sports teams is that you simply CANNOT post anything critical about the team without being ruthlessly bashed by a number of other fans.

Some boards are worst than others, but, what I say here is generally the truth.

The Saints Defense is below average. It might be even worse than it was last season. I don't think that there are any quick fixes, because, IMHO, the player personnel on Defense are deficient -- for some reason they do not "get it done."

This has been a problem for some years now with the Saints Defense. This is not a question of fandom, faith, patience or anything other than just my opinion based upon observation, and, my experience watching the Saints since 1967.

I will hope for the best from this Defense, but, I do not expect them to become a good defense this season.

Rugby Saint II · 09-10-2012, 03:20 PM

I trust Spags more than I do our college scouts. Our draft sucks and has for years. Yes, we can find some late round gems. But, how about they find us an early draft pick that works out well.

Shoe. · 09-10-2012, 03:25 PM

[QUOTE= But, how about they find us an early draft pick that works out well.[/QUOTE]

Patrick Robinson has worked out well. He's getting better still, and almost had a nice pick yesterday.

Cameron Jordan was one of the better things going for our run-D yesterday.

Mark Ingram is not the second-coming of Emmitt or anything, but he also has shown improvement. Why he didn't get the ball more is a good question.

Our first rounders haven't stolen the show like some of our late-rounders, but give the guys some credit, they are far from busts.

FinSaint · 09-10-2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Mark Ingram is not the second-coming of Emmitt or anything, but he also has shown improvement. Why he didn't get the ball more is a good question.

Well, they had to abandon the running game because they were playing catch-up for most of the game.

And even more importantly, they sucked at 1st downs and because of that they were forced into 2nd-and-long and 3rd-and-long situations where you rarely call a running play when you have a Drew Brees caliber QB on your team.

09-10-2012, 08:47 AM	#1
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Trust in Spags? There is a long way for us to go to be an elite team. Sean Payton is sorely missed. It is only one game but a whooper of a disappointment.

09-10-2012, 09:04 AM	#2
BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Trust in Spags? I go to watch it at a sportsbar here in town, defense looked bad, missed tackles, no pressure on RGIII. As bad as it was, at least they had a shot to try & tie at the end of the game. They should be able to look back at this game & correct themselves. 2 big plays that changed the Colstons fumble/touchback & the Harper pi call, if neither happened who knows. leilung likes this.

09-10-2012, 09:53 AM	#3
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Trust in Spags? First game, that counted. The Skins had a good game plan and our D (our team for that matter) was unable to get into a rhythm. Plus the D is a little thin. I see major adjustments in the next week. We have to go to Carolina and Newton presents alot of the same problems RG3 did.

09-10-2012, 11:20 AM	#4
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trust in Spags? I sat there looking at the scoreboard all through the game and doing the math, and knowing that every time we scored we'd still have to kick off to the Redskins, and they would dutifully march down the field and score again at will, against our defense. From about the early third quarter on, it was really only ever a question in my mind of whether we would lose by one score or two. Because we couldn't freaking stop them. At all! Even after the blocked punt, it was like, yay, yippie, but to start the third quarter we still gotta kick off to the Redskins again, so tack on at least another 7 to the score before our offense even sees the field again. I actually felt like we should have tried an "Ambush" in there somewhere, because we desperately needed possessions. And their scoring was almost inevitable and guaranteed, once they had the ball it was only a question of a is it a 3 or a 7. It was that ugly.

09-10-2012, 11:56 AM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by SaintsBro I sat there looking at the scoreboard all through the game and doing the math, and knowing that every time we scored we'd still have to kick off to the Redskins, and they would dutifully march down the field and score again at will, against our defense. From about the early third quarter on, it was really only ever a question in my mind of whether we would lose by one score or two. Because we couldn't freaking stop them. At all! Even after the blocked punt, it was like, yay, yippie, but to start the third quarter we still gotta kick off to the Redskins again, so tack on at least another 7 to the score before our offense even sees the field again. I actually felt like we should have tried an "Ambush" in there somewhere, because we desperately needed possessions. And their scoring was almost inevitable and guaranteed, once they had the ball it was only a question of a is it a 3 or a 7. It was that ugly. Yep. These are (were) my thoughts too. I realize the defense was put in some bad positions. Regardless, they simply were not able to stop the Redskins - and frankly I knew it was going to be a long day from the opening drive.

09-10-2012, 12:47 PM	#6
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,426	Re: Trust in Spags? I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right. So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season. Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late!

09-10-2012, 07:16 PM	#7
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by leilung I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right. So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season. Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late! One thing I notice about all Fan Message Boards for sports teams is that you simply CANNOT post anything critical about the team without being ruthlessly bashed by a number of other fans. Some boards are worst than others, but, what I say here is generally the truth. The Saints Defense is below average. It might be even worse than it was last season. I don't think that there are any quick fixes, because, IMHO, the player personnel on Defense are deficient -- for some reason they do not "get it done." This has been a problem for some years now with the Saints Defense. This is not a question of fandom, faith, patience or anything other than just my opinion based upon observation, and, my experience watching the Saints since 1967. I will hope for the best from this Defense, but, I do not expect them to become a good defense this season.
	GO SAINTS GO!! GO SAINTS GO!! GO SAINTS GO!! -- Al Hirt on the Tulane Stadium PA system loudly cheering for our beloved New Orleans Saints

09-10-2012, 03:20 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trust in Spags? I trust Spags more than I do our college scouts. Our draft sucks and has for years. Yes, we can find some late round gems. But, how about they find us an early draft pick that works out well.

09-10-2012, 03:25 PM	#9
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Trust in Spags? [QUOTE= But, how about they find us an early draft pick that works out well.[/QUOTE] Patrick Robinson has worked out well. He's getting better still, and almost had a nice pick yesterday. Cameron Jordan was one of the better things going for our run-D yesterday. Mark Ingram is not the second-coming of Emmitt or anything, but he also has shown improvement. Why he didn't get the ball more is a good question. Our first rounders haven't stolen the show like some of our late-rounders, but give the guys some credit, they are far from busts.

09-10-2012, 03:41 PM	#10
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by Shoe. Mark Ingram is not the second-coming of Emmitt or anything, but he also has shown improvement. Why he didn't get the ball more is a good question. Well, they had to abandon the running game because they were playing catch-up for most of the game. And even more importantly, they sucked at 1st downs and because of that they were forced into 2nd-and-long and 3rd-and-long situations where you rarely call a running play when you have a Drew Brees caliber QB on your team.

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