Trust in Spags?

Budsdrinker · 09-10-2012, 06:55 PM

We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried

We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

FinSaint · 09-10-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

A lot of that is due to Shanahan's good gameplan, IMO. They wore down the defensive linemen with the edge plays in the first quarter, forcing the linemen to chase down receivers.

I thought that it seemed pretty apparent that some of the guys were running out of gas even in the 3rd quarter when the Redskins started to run much more effectively and consistently.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We gave up 153 yards on the ground.

That is kind of misleading; their T.O.P. was through the roof. If the offense would have kept drives going like their supposed to, they would have only had 70 or so I think...

In a 60 minute game, they had the ball for 40 minutes

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 07:22 PM

What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game...

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game...

Exactly.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Exactly.

that's not all the defenses fault... I think the offense had 4-5 3 and outs...

Haps Biggest Fan · 09-10-2012, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

A few years?? I hope you're kidding w this comment.

I hope I am wrong, but, it could take a few years to build a dominant defense. I see nothing about the Saints D right now that would make me believe that it can be done in less than a season or even one season.

Haps Biggest Fan · 09-10-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right.

So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season.

Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late!

One thing I notice about all Fan Message Boards for sports teams is that you simply CANNOT post anything critical about the team without being ruthlessly bashed by a number of other fans.

Some boards are worst than others, but, what I say here is generally the truth.

The Saints Defense is below average. It might be even worse than it was last season. I don't think that there are any quick fixes, because, IMHO, the player personnel on Defense are deficient -- for some reason they do not "get it done."

This has been a problem for some years now with the Saints Defense. This is not a question of fandom, faith, patience or anything other than just my opinion based upon observation, and, my experience watching the Saints since 1967.

I will hope for the best from this Defense, but, I do not expect them to become a good defense this season.

09-10-2012, 06:55 PM	#41
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Trust in Spags? We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried

09-10-2012, 07:16 PM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

09-10-2012, 07:19 PM	#43
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position. A lot of that is due to Shanahan's good gameplan, IMO. They wore down the defensive linemen with the edge plays in the first quarter, forcing the linemen to chase down receivers. I thought that it seemed pretty apparent that some of the guys were running out of gas even in the 3rd quarter when the Redskins started to run much more effectively and consistently.

09-10-2012, 07:20 PM	#44
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan We gave up 153 yards on the ground. That is kind of misleading; their T.O.P. was through the roof. If the offense would have kept drives going like their supposed to, they would have only had 70 or so I think... In a 60 minute game, they had the ball for 40 minutes

09-10-2012, 07:22 PM	#45
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

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09-10-2012, 07:23 PM	#47
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game... Exactly.

09-10-2012, 07:25 PM	#48
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan Exactly. that's not all the defenses fault... I think the offense had 4-5 3 and outs...

09-10-2012, 08:07 PM	#49
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by 44Champs A few years?? I hope you're kidding w this comment. I hope I am wrong, but, it could take a few years to build a dominant defense. I see nothing about the Saints D right now that would make me believe that it can be done in less than a season or even one season.

09-10-2012, 08:16 PM	#50
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by leilung I questioned old bad habits (ie. getting caught out of position and tackling) way back during pre-season. I was then told by several folks that I was a 'chicken little' and there was nothing that they wouldn't fix. Yeah right. So here we are, Game 1 over- the Skins come into OUR HOUSE, beat us with a rookie QB, pedestrian D, and a third string RB. Same issues on D as the pre-season. Just hope Spags gets it running right before it's too late! One thing I notice about all Fan Message Boards for sports teams is that you simply CANNOT post anything critical about the team without being ruthlessly bashed by a number of other fans. Some boards are worst than others, but, what I say here is generally the truth. The Saints Defense is below average. It might be even worse than it was last season. I don't think that there are any quick fixes, because, IMHO, the player personnel on Defense are deficient -- for some reason they do not "get it done." This has been a problem for some years now with the Saints Defense. This is not a question of fandom, faith, patience or anything other than just my opinion based upon observation, and, my experience watching the Saints since 1967. I will hope for the best from this Defense, but, I do not expect them to become a good defense this season.
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