Trust in Spags?

saintswhodi · 09-10-2012, 03:36 PM

I am gonna reserve judgment on the D for now. Here's why:

1) No one knew what to expect from RGIII and the Redskins offense. No one. They didn't do much of that zone read in the preseason, so there was no way to prepare for it. And they ran it almost exclusively in the first half. Plus there isn't any film on RGIII to study except college. How much good is that gonna do you? It was a tough assignment on our team and our D. We didn't meet the challenge, but secondly:

2) How much time has the D actually had together? Lofton and Hawthorne both were hurt much of the preseason, just came back. Greer has been out all preseason, and still isn't back, and he is our best corner. Patrick can't stay healthy, and he went out. So 1 and 3 CB out, and 2 LBs who haven't done on field work in weeks playing. It's gonna take some time for their health and legs to come back.

I say we give it a chance as the weeks go for us to play teams we can actually gameplan for, for guys to get healthy, and for those that didn't play much to get acclimated and see if there is improvement. I feel pretty confident there would have been a different result if we played them week 3 as opposed to week one. Also, the offense wasn't very helpful. Turnovers and three and outs consistently will foil any defensive plan. Except maybe the 2000 Ravens defense. And our D definitely is not that.

DrewDat · 09-10-2012, 03:49 PM

Its Only One Game...I Havent Saw One Team Who Was Dominate From Start To Finish Without A Wakeup Call...Hopefully We Just Got Ours Early...

Budsdrinker · 09-10-2012, 05:55 PM

We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried

We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

FinSaint · 09-10-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

A lot of that is due to Shanahan's good gameplan, IMO. They wore down the defensive linemen with the edge plays in the first quarter, forcing the linemen to chase down receivers.

I thought that it seemed pretty apparent that some of the guys were running out of gas even in the 3rd quarter when the Redskins started to run much more effectively and consistently.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We gave up 153 yards on the ground.

That is kind of misleading; their T.O.P. was through the roof. If the offense would have kept drives going like their supposed to, they would have only had 70 or so I think...

In a 60 minute game, they had the ball for 40 minutes

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 06:22 PM

What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game...

saintfan · 09-10-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game...

Exactly.

|Mitch| · 09-10-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Exactly.

that's not all the defenses fault... I think the offense had 4-5 3 and outs...

09-10-2012, 03:36 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: Trust in Spags? I am gonna reserve judgment on the D for now. Here's why: 1) No one knew what to expect from RGIII and the Redskins offense. No one. They didn't do much of that zone read in the preseason, so there was no way to prepare for it. And they ran it almost exclusively in the first half. Plus there isn't any film on RGIII to study except college. How much good is that gonna do you? It was a tough assignment on our team and our D. We didn't meet the challenge, but secondly: 2) How much time has the D actually had together? Lofton and Hawthorne both were hurt much of the preseason, just came back. Greer has been out all preseason, and still isn't back, and he is our best corner. Patrick can't stay healthy, and he went out. So 1 and 3 CB out, and 2 LBs who haven't done on field work in weeks playing. It's gonna take some time for their health and legs to come back. I say we give it a chance as the weeks go for us to play teams we can actually gameplan for, for guys to get healthy, and for those that didn't play much to get acclimated and see if there is improvement. I feel pretty confident there would have been a different result if we played them week 3 as opposed to week one. Also, the offense wasn't very helpful. Turnovers and three and outs consistently will foil any defensive plan. Except maybe the 2000 Ravens defense. And our D definitely is not that.

09-10-2012, 03:49 PM	#2
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09-10-2012, 05:55 PM	#3
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09-10-2012, 06:16 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker We had a rookie cb playing and 2nd year player in Patrick playing. Once we get Greer back we will be fine. If we lose the next 2 games then I will be worried We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position.

09-10-2012, 06:19 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan We gave up 153 yards on the ground. We need some help, but not from the CB position. A lot of that is due to Shanahan's good gameplan, IMO. They wore down the defensive linemen with the edge plays in the first quarter, forcing the linemen to chase down receivers. I thought that it seemed pretty apparent that some of the guys were running out of gas even in the 3rd quarter when the Redskins started to run much more effectively and consistently.

09-10-2012, 06:20 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan We gave up 153 yards on the ground. That is kind of misleading; their T.O.P. was through the roof. If the offense would have kept drives going like their supposed to, they would have only had 70 or so I think... In a 60 minute game, they had the ball for 40 minutes

09-10-2012, 06:22 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? What's misleading about it? It is what it is.

09-10-2012, 06:23 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| they had the ball for 40 minutes of a 60 minute game... Exactly.

09-10-2012, 06:25 PM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Trust in Spags? Originally Posted by saintfan Exactly. that's not all the defenses fault... I think the offense had 4-5 3 and outs...

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