Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID!

whodatsaintsfan26 · 08-05-2004, 05:25 PM

First off let me start by saying im not defending Henderson, but this is silly on both sides. You cant say how stupid this is on his side only. The Saints could just as easily throw in the 15k and get this guy into camp. Everybody talks about the players fighting over a little money, but the team is just as stupid. It is just a beneficial for the saints to get him in camp as it is for him to get there. They need him on the field now and 15k isnt going to hurt the cap. If they used a second round pick on the guy they assume that he is a player they can put in now. Just throw in the chump change get this guy signed.

CheramieIII · 08-05-2004, 05:58 PM

:mad2:
I think the Saints should stick to their guns on this one. Sit him on the PS or not sign him at all. It\'s not like we don\'t have alot of good receivers anyway and most with alot more NFL experience than Henderson. The Saints did sign another wide receiver today, I believe in an attempt to send a message to Henderson and his agent. Not the the wide receiver they signed has alot of experience either, but to show him that they are not going to wait around for him. If he stays out of camp for another 2 or 3 weeks he will pretty much be lost for the season anyway.

Play for your pay! Show us what you got first and I\'m sure the Saint\'s will more than make up the 15k you think you\'ve lost.

ScottyRo · 08-05-2004, 06:06 PM

I thought about whether the Saints should just give in. It really doesn\'t affect them all that much. Henderson is the one getting behind and thereby losing any chance of seeing the field this season.

On the Saints side, he probably wasn\'t going to play much anyway - especially with all the competition at WR. If he wants to hang his chances of playing this year, then let him.

Now, there\'s no way they can justify cutting him. Nor can they put him on the practice squad since he\'d have to clear waivers first. If he doesn\'t get into camp soon, he\'ll make the 53 man roster, but I doubt he\'ll be activated regularly.

pakowitz · 08-05-2004, 09:26 PM

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE STUPID, BUT MOST PEOPLE ABUSE IT

whodatsaintsfan26 · 08-05-2004, 09:35 PM

I just dont know who all this depth a wr people keep talking about. Stallworth hasnt proved that he can stay healthy or consistent when he is healthy. Pathon is not a game breaker and drops a lot of balls. Crowell also has injury concerns. Gardner caught nothing thrown to him last year when everyone was hurt. The two lewis\'s have shown nothing in game situations. I think it is very important to get him signed and into camp. They wouldnt have taken him the second if they didnt think he could play right away. Until someone else steps up and help horn then as far as i am concerned there is no depth a wr only potential.

Halo · 08-05-2004, 09:42 PM

whodatsaintsfan26

Glad to see you\'re back, haven\'t seen you in like a year. My email is editor@blackandgold.net. Hit me up with your new email addy and we can chat to catch up.

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CheramieIII · 08-05-2004, 10:49 PM

Hey 26, I had to go back and read everyone\'s post and I did not see the word depth mentioned once. I did mention the fact that we have alot of good receivers in camp already. Whether or not they have or will step up in the future remains to be seen. I do not think that if Henderson does\'nt come to camp or even plays the entire year our chances will be hurt in winning games.

I do think he can make the Saints a better team because he does have talent, but I don\'t think he is helping himself or most importantly the TEAM by squabbling over $15,000.00. This does not appear to me to be a good way to start your career. If he is complaining about 15k now, what will it be next, the color jock strap he has to wear or the size of his locker. Don\'t you think the longer he is out the more resentment the entire team will have towards him, not to mention the fans.

The agent is to blame just as much as Henderson. I think we need to set the example for all players, in all sports, that if you are not a team player, you don\'t play!

Boccal · 08-06-2004, 09:23 AM

How many people in here think that alot of the players are over payed......I for one do, but I also think that about all Pro sports. Its just stupid how much money these guys get handed to them to play a sport. But now to my point The Saints shouldn\'t give him the money, Devery can\'t catch the ball but about half the time anyway. And what he and his agent fail to realize is that in this day of contracts and contract disputes he wants to worry about 15k that he will loose any way in his incentive based contract. He should shutup sign the contract that makes him a millionaire and not worry about 15k. What the should do is let him sit and think about \"Holding Out\". Maybe they should give his agent the NFL exam and see what he scores!

Sarsippius · 08-06-2004, 09:51 AM

If I was the Saints at this point in the position they are in at WR depth.....I would give his agent one last time to sign and then start lowering my offer by 5k every day. \"Hey Devery...today if you sign i will give you 1.395 mil to sit on the bench all year! No? Ok talk to you tomorrow and offer 1.390.\" Signing bonuses should not be given now that training camp is halfway over... he wasnt even the best reciever on his college team!

JOESAM2002 · 08-06-2004, 10:16 AM

Hey, just charge him $1,000.00 a day for each day of camp he misses. That\'ll take care of his $15,000.00 quick.

08-05-2004, 05:25 PM	#11
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! First off let me start by saying im not defending Henderson, but this is silly on both sides. You cant say how stupid this is on his side only. The Saints could just as easily throw in the 15k and get this guy into camp. Everybody talks about the players fighting over a little money, but the team is just as stupid. It is just a beneficial for the saints to get him in camp as it is for him to get there. They need him on the field now and 15k isnt going to hurt the cap. If they used a second round pick on the guy they assume that he is a player they can put in now. Just throw in the chump change get this guy signed.

08-05-2004, 05:58 PM	#12
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! :mad2: I think the Saints should stick to their guns on this one. Sit him on the PS or not sign him at all. It\'s not like we don\'t have alot of good receivers anyway and most with alot more NFL experience than Henderson. The Saints did sign another wide receiver today, I believe in an attempt to send a message to Henderson and his agent. Not the the wide receiver they signed has alot of experience either, but to show him that they are not going to wait around for him. If he stays out of camp for another 2 or 3 weeks he will pretty much be lost for the season anyway. Play for your pay! Show us what you got first and I\'m sure the Saint\'s will more than make up the 15k you think you\'ve lost.
	Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at them. Jimmy Demaret

08-05-2004, 06:06 PM	#13
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! I thought about whether the Saints should just give in. It really doesn\'t affect them all that much. Henderson is the one getting behind and thereby losing any chance of seeing the field this season. On the Saints side, he probably wasn\'t going to play much anyway - especially with all the competition at WR. If he wants to hang his chances of playing this year, then let him. Now, there\'s no way they can justify cutting him. Nor can they put him on the practice squad since he\'d have to clear waivers first. If he doesn\'t get into camp soon, he\'ll make the 53 man roster, but I doubt he\'ll be activated regularly.

08-05-2004, 09:26 PM	#14
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE STUPID, BUT MOST PEOPLE ABUSE IT

08-05-2004, 09:35 PM	#15
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! I just dont know who all this depth a wr people keep talking about. Stallworth hasnt proved that he can stay healthy or consistent when he is healthy. Pathon is not a game breaker and drops a lot of balls. Crowell also has injury concerns. Gardner caught nothing thrown to him last year when everyone was hurt. The two lewis\'s have shown nothing in game situations. I think it is very important to get him signed and into camp. They wouldnt have taken him the second if they didnt think he could play right away. Until someone else steps up and help horn then as far as i am concerned there is no depth a wr only potential.

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08-05-2004, 09:42 PM	#16
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! whodatsaintsfan26 Glad to see you\'re back, haven\'t seen you in like a year. My email is editor@blackandgold.net. Hit me up with your new email addy and we can chat to catch up. Halo

08-05-2004, 10:49 PM	#17
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! Hey 26, I had to go back and read everyone\'s post and I did not see the word depth mentioned once. I did mention the fact that we have alot of good receivers in camp already. Whether or not they have or will step up in the future remains to be seen. I do not think that if Henderson does\'nt come to camp or even plays the entire year our chances will be hurt in winning games. I do think he can make the Saints a better team because he does have talent, but I don\'t think he is helping himself or most importantly the TEAM by squabbling over $15,000.00. This does not appear to me to be a good way to start your career. If he is complaining about 15k now, what will it be next, the color jock strap he has to wear or the size of his locker. Don\'t you think the longer he is out the more resentment the entire team will have towards him, not to mention the fans. The agent is to blame just as much as Henderson. I think we need to set the example for all players, in all sports, that if you are not a team player, you don\'t play!
	Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at them. Jimmy Demaret

08-06-2004, 09:23 AM	#18
Boccal 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mobile Posts: 139	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! How many people in here think that alot of the players are over payed......I for one do, but I also think that about all Pro sports. Its just stupid how much money these guys get handed to them to play a sport. But now to my point The Saints shouldn\'t give him the money, Devery can\'t catch the ball but about half the time anyway. And what he and his agent fail to realize is that in this day of contracts and contract disputes he wants to worry about 15k that he will loose any way in his incentive based contract. He should shutup sign the contract that makes him a millionaire and not worry about 15k. What the should do is let him sit and think about \"Holding Out\". Maybe they should give his agent the NFL exam and see what he scores!

08-06-2004, 09:51 AM	#19
Sarsippius Registered Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! If I was the Saints at this point in the position they are in at WR depth.....I would give his agent one last time to sign and then start lowering my offer by 5k every day. \"Hey Devery...today if you sign i will give you 1.395 mil to sit on the bench all year! No? Ok talk to you tomorrow and offer 1.390.\" Signing bonuses should not be given now that training camp is halfway over... he wasnt even the best reciever on his college team!

08-06-2004, 10:16 AM	#20
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Henderson: Now this is SO STUPID! Hey, just charge him $1,000.00 a day for each day of camp he misses. That\'ll take care of his $15,000.00 quick.