Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof )

Shoe. · 09-28-2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.

Yikes.

I think I'm gonna go throw up now...

Shoe. · 09-28-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

So you get a high 1st for 2013 and a high 2nd for 2013 too

We don't get a 2013 2nd rounder

thanks rog, I hope you trip and fall down in front of lots of people

Danno · 09-28-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.

And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.

NOLA54 · 09-28-2012, 03:09 PM

Stil,l I can't help but wonder how would our defense be if Payton was at the helm now. He expects more than we are currently getting from them to date.

mutineer10 · 09-28-2012, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.

Stephen Hawking is awfully smart, but probably wouldn't be a very good LB either ...

Shoe. · 09-28-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.

So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.

FinSaint · 09-28-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.

No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest.

To me, there's a huge difference!

Oh, and the main reason why I complain about Shanle being a starter is that he is sooooo slow compared to the players he is supposed to be tackling that it makes it very painful to watch him play, and he doesn't have the natural positional instincts to cover his lack of speed and movement skills in general.

Shoe. · 09-28-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest.

To me, there's a huge difference!

That distinction is pure gold

Danno · 09-28-2012, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.

I said smart, but I didn't say capable

. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent.

The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below.

The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter.

And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.

FinSaint · 09-28-2012, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I said smart, but I didn't say capable. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent.

The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below.

The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter.

And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.

Chamberlain looked surprisingly good before he got hurt, and he might've been able to give Shanle some honest competition, if he hadn't had to go and do the "Herring" on us.

09-28-2012, 02:26 PM	#31
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by alexonfyre Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense. Yikes. I think I'm gonna go throw up now...

09-28-2012, 02:29 PM	#32
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by SanDiego49er So you get a high 1st for 2013 and a high 2nd for 2013 too We don't get a 2013 2nd rounder thanks rog, I hope you trip and fall down in front of lots of people

09-28-2012, 02:59 PM	#33
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by alexonfyre Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense. And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.

09-28-2012, 03:09 PM	#34
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Stil,l I can't help but wonder how would our defense be if Payton was at the helm now. He expects more than we are currently getting from them to date.

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mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by alexonfyre Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense. Stephen Hawking is awfully smart, but probably wouldn't be a very good LB either ... Danno likes this.

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09-28-2012, 04:19 PM	#36
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players. So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators. So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.

09-28-2012, 04:31 PM	#37
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Shoe. So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators. So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused. No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest. To me, there's a huge difference! Oh, and the main reason why I complain about Shanle being a starter is that he is sooooo slow compared to the players he is supposed to be tackling that it makes it very painful to watch him play, and he doesn't have the natural positional instincts to cover his lack of speed and movement skills in general. bobdog86 likes this.

09-28-2012, 04:38 PM	#38
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by FinSaint No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest. To me, there's a huge difference! That distinction is pure gold

09-28-2012, 05:19 PM	#39
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Shoe. So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators. So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused. I said smart, but I didn't say capable. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent. The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below. The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter. And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.

09-28-2012, 10:23 PM	#40
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno I said smart, but I didn't say capable. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent. The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below. The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter. And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall. Chamberlain looked surprisingly good before he got hurt, and he might've been able to give Shanle some honest competition, if he hadn't had to go and do the "Herring" on us.

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