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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Come on guys, 48 yard FG isn't a gimme and there is more than enough blame to go around for the loss. I agree Buds, and I think most people here will too. I don't blame ...
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10-01-2012, 09:40 AM | #61 |
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
I agree Buds, and I think most people here will too. I don't blame Hartley for the loss. There is plenty of blame to go around for that. What I do blame Hartley for is missing the field goal...again. That's his job. Like I posted earlier, I have been one of the biggest Hartley defenders and supporters for a long time on this board, but I can't defend him any more. He's too big of a liability. IMO
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10-01-2012, 09:42 AM | #62 |
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
Hartley needs to go, they are not putting Sproles in a position to make plays like last year, don't have Payton calling the plays.
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
I do not blame Hartley for the loss either.
I blame Hartley for not winning it. There is a difference. |
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker
Again, this isn't about just the game yesterday. You know well kicker is a totally different position than runningback. Kickers are journeymen in the NFL, that's their profession. There are always 2 or 3 kickers every season sitting on standby waiting for a call for their 2nd, 3rd, 10th, 12th chance at success again.
When Hartley started missing last season, Payton and Loomis pulled in Kasey fast. Kicker is not a position teams draft and pay big payouts for a guy to just sit on staff. I disagree that 48 isn't a gimme in the NFL. Kicks below 50 are expected. It's the pros. He already missed this season from within 39-30 range and another 40+ yarder. Why do people keep apologizing for this guy? |
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Tampa Bay kicks a FG to win, Atlanta kicks a FG to win, Saints ? Knew he would miss the second try, he is a head case. Too bad after how great he was in the superbowl run.
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Well technically the Skins came back and kicked the game winner against TB, but your point remains. Tampa's kicker nailed it (a 47 yarder)
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10-01-2012, 09:53 AM | #67 |
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
Even if he makes it there is still 2 minutes or a little more on the clock, I believe Rogers marches them right down the field for a TD. The defense gave him all day with resemblance of a rush what so ever.
IMO the mistake was made much. Earlier in the game kicking a FG from the 3 or something like that instead of going for it, to that point GB hadn't even punted.LOOK HARD AT THE COACHING DECISIONS IN THAT GAME |
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
Kickers win the game... They do not lose it, it is a position of opportunity, except for extra points.
If a game comes down to 3 or less points the loss is on the defense and or offense. We just do not have a game winning kicker. |
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Re: I am ready to move on from Hartley
I'd have more confidence in Morestead kicking. Or hell, cut Hartley for an extra roster spot and go for two from here on out (kidding, sort of).
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