Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:

spkb25 · 10-04-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Ingram played just 13 snaps on Sunday, producing a totally ineffective 11 yards rushing on five carries (he also had one catch for negative-1 yard). He seemed hesitant when he had the football, but is the Saints’ play-calling to blame? New Orleans ran 42 offensive plays on second, third or fourth down Sunday in Green Bay — only four were runs, and just one by Ingram. That’s way too predictable, and it helps explain why Ingram seems totally misused so far this season.

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I dont 100% disagree, plus, in my opinion MI is the type of back that probably gets better with more carries. Our line hasn't opened a ton of holes, and the ones they do for PT is in part his skill, but also his dangerousness out of the backfield on screens.

TheOak · 10-04-2012, 10:19 AM

The answer to the OP is, no more than we ruined Bush.

TheOak · 10-04-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

That's all about brees and extending his records...and not necessarily just the unitas one.

I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records.

Shoe. · 10-04-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records.

Yes, especially when

A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go

B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC

DO THE MATH.

yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot."

Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does.

TheOak · 10-04-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Yes, especially when

A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go

B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC

DO THE MATH.

yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot."

Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does.

I am not sure what in sam hill you are talking about... I simply stated I do not think he was throwing to boost stats or effect records.

Brees is always "hot" when he is not running for his life.. His receivers hands... well that looks like hot potato lately.

10-04-2012, 09:55 AM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?: Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Ingram played just 13 snaps on Sunday, producing a totally ineffective 11 yards rushing on five carries (he also had one catch for negative-1 yard). He seemed hesitant when he had the football, but is the Saints’ play-calling to blame? New Orleans ran 42 offensive plays on second, third or fourth down Sunday in Green Bay — only four were runs, and just one by Ingram. That’s way too predictable, and it helps explain why Ingram seems totally misused so far this season. Second Read: Patriots find a running game, more Week 4 observations \| Audibles I dont 100% disagree, plus, in my opinion MI is the type of back that probably gets better with more carries. Our line hasn't opened a ton of holes, and the ones they do for PT is in part his skill, but also his dangerousness out of the backfield on screens.

10-04-2012, 10:19 AM	#22
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?: The answer to the OP is, no more than we ruined Bush.

10-04-2012, 10:20 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?: Originally Posted by Mikemike That's all about brees and extending his records...and not necessarily just the unitas one. I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records. Shoe. likes this.

10-04-2012, 10:25 AM	#24
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?: Originally Posted by x626xBlack I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records. Yes, especially when A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC DO THE MATH. yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot." Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does.

10-04-2012, 12:29 PM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?: Originally Posted by Shoe. Yes, especially when A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC DO THE MATH. yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot." Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does. I am not sure what in sam hill you are talking about... I simply stated I do not think he was throwing to boost stats or effect records. Brees is always "hot" when he is not running for his life.. His receivers hands... well that looks like hot potato lately.

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