Defensive brilliance or luck?

TheOak · 10-22-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Turn the coin over; not a lot of teams can score 30+ points as easily as the Saints.

I am not saying that our defense isn't in need of a major overhaul. If the Saints offense has an off-day, or have to play in an inclement weather, and our so-called defense can't stop anyone from scoring 21-24 points, we will be in major trouble.

pre 2012 I agree... In 2012 we are missing the "play caller"... That's a big issue, we have seen it in the first 6 games. If Vitt doesn't do much of a better job the big plays will be our demise.

darksoul35 · 10-22-2012, 10:35 AM

Im still wondering if this is the worst defense i have ever seen at New Orleans and ive been a fan since the early nineties.Its hard to watch

Jamessr · 10-22-2012, 11:44 AM

Voted A.
The defense in week 1-4 looked lost. Not sure and haven't bought into the new defense idea because blizting is easier and you don't have to be very smart.

They're moving faster and making plays, making stops, batting down balls and getting sacks. Even thoughts its a small amount.
The defense that played yesterday gave the offense a chance and vise versa.

Getting better each week.

Rugby Saint II · 10-22-2012, 01:27 PM

I voted B. We have to have players that don't just flash brilliance(Jenkins) we need game changers game in and game out . Right now we don't have enough of those.........1st rounders not living up to expectation.jmho

TheOak · 10-22-2012, 03:00 PM

I voted luck.... In some rare instances Ill take lucky over good.

SAINTstunna · 10-22-2012, 03:05 PM

Im not worried about the SAINTS putting 30 on the board.... my concern is keeping the opponent from slamming 40... good news is we're back in the thick of things at 2-4. Lets keep doing what we can control and check back in 4 weeks... WHO DATT!!!!

UK_WhoDat · 10-22-2012, 03:43 PM

Last night I get saying why didn't we keep some money back to strengthen our defense with one (more) quality player. It needs it.

Two more is closer to requirements.

xan · 10-22-2012, 04:35 PM

After we went down 21-7 by the beginning of the 2nd quarter, it was pretty clear that defense was some unknown abstract concept one learns in grad philosophy. Delude yourselves at your own risk.

pumpkindriver · 10-22-2012, 05:49 PM

Flashes of brilliance, yeah, but I"m seeing more flashes everyweek. We didn't sack Freeman, but we got pressure on him and made him run around a lot. Now if we can somehow make life hard for Ol' PM out there in Denver, we'll get one game closer to .500. Heres hoping the Broncos play like crap the entire game instead of just the first half.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by pumpkindriver

Now if we can somehow make life hard for Ol' PM out there in Denver,

At least Manning isn't the runner that Freeman is... Looked what happened to Rivers when we got the same amount of pressure...

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10-22-2012, 10:34 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Turn the coin over; not a lot of teams can score 30+ points as easily as the Saints. I am not saying that our defense isn't in need of a major overhaul. If the Saints offense has an off-day, or have to play in an inclement weather, and our so-called defense can't stop anyone from scoring 21-24 points, we will be in major trouble. pre 2012 I agree... In 2012 we are missing the "play caller"... That's a big issue, we have seen it in the first 6 games. If Vitt doesn't do much of a better job the big plays will be our demise.

10-22-2012, 10:35 AM	#12
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Im still wondering if this is the worst defense i have ever seen at New Orleans and ive been a fan since the early nineties.Its hard to watch
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10-22-2012, 11:44 AM	#13
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Voted A. The defense in week 1-4 looked lost. Not sure and haven't bought into the new defense idea because blizting is easier and you don't have to be very smart. They're moving faster and making plays, making stops, batting down balls and getting sacks. Even thoughts its a small amount. The defense that played yesterday gave the offense a chance and vise versa. Getting better each week.

10-22-2012, 01:27 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? I voted B. We have to have players that don't just flash brilliance(Jenkins) we need game changers game in and game out . Right now we don't have enough of those.........1st rounders not living up to expectation.jmho

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10-22-2012, 03:00 PM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? I voted luck.... In some rare instances Ill take lucky over good.

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SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Im not worried about the SAINTS putting 30 on the board.... my concern is keeping the opponent from slamming 40... good news is we're back in the thick of things at 2-4. Lets keep doing what we can control and check back in 4 weeks... WHO DATT!!!!

10-22-2012, 03:43 PM	#17
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,983	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Last night I get saying why didn't we keep some money back to strengthen our defense with one (more) quality player. It needs it. Two more is closer to requirements.

10-22-2012, 04:35 PM	#18
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? After we went down 21-7 by the beginning of the 2nd quarter, it was pretty clear that defense was some unknown abstract concept one learns in grad philosophy. Delude yourselves at your own risk. pumpkindriver, 73Saint and bobdog86 like this.

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pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Flashes of brilliance, yeah, but I"m seeing more flashes everyweek. We didn't sack Freeman, but we got pressure on him and made him run around a lot. Now if we can somehow make life hard for Ol' PM out there in Denver, we'll get one game closer to .500. Heres hoping the Broncos play like crap the entire game instead of just the first half.

10-22-2012, 05:54 PM	#20
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Defensive brilliance or luck? Originally Posted by pumpkindriver Now if we can somehow make life hard for Ol' PM out there in Denver, At least Manning isn't the runner that Freeman is... Looked what happened to Rivers when we got the same amount of pressure...

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