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View Poll Results: What Is/Are the Biggest Problems With the Saints' Defense? | |||
Lack of Talent on Defensive Line | 24 | 39.34% | |
Lack of Talent at Cornerback | 5 | 8.20% | |
Lack of Talent at Safety | 3 | 4.92% | |
Scheme, still need time to learn | 16 | 26.23% | |
Commitment to 1st Rounders, FA Contracts, Need Young Guns to Play | 3 | 4.92% | |
Lack of Running Game, Puts Defense on Field to Much | 10 | 16.39% | |
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10-29-2012, 08:14 AM | #62 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
The move by Benson of Loomis into offices for the Hornets was telling...
Some suggested it was a way for Benson to continue to keep Loomis, a loyal employee, on the payroll during the GoodellGate Suspension... I believe he's Benson's point man on salaries, his bean counter, and Loomis' job is to make sure the team's coaches have the salary cap flexibility to make roster moves as necessary... I don't believe Loomis is a "football man" when it comes to talent evaluation nor is that where his talent or assignment lies... Coach Payton has been looking for a Defensive Complement to himself so he doesn't have to be burdened with the defense... However, changes have to be made as this defense is historically futile; and those changes really start with organization changes that must reflect a thoughtful commitment to said change... |
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10-29-2012, 08:47 AM | #63 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
Saints Defensive Salaries - (Name, Pos, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
Sedrick Ellis DT 5,816,000 UFA Brodrick Bunkley DT 700,000 3,700,000 4,400,000 4,400,000 4,400,000 Akiem Hicks DT 390,000 480,000 570,000 660,000 UFA Tyrunn Walker DT 390,000 480,000 570,000 RFA Tom Johnson DT 465,000 555,000 RFA Will Smith DE 825,000 9,000,000 10,400,000*UFA Cameron Jordan DE 726,427 1,077,855 1,429,282 UFA Junior Galette DE 490,000 RFA Turk McBride DE 800,000 UFA Martez Wilson E/LB 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA Curtis Lofton LB 700,000 1,100,000 1,000,000 2,400,000 5,400,000 Jonathan Vilma LB 1,600,000 4,800,000 UFA David Hawthorne LB 700,000 1,000,000 1,000,000 2,000,000 4,000,000 Scott Shanle LB 1,050,000 UFA Will Herring LB 1,300,000 1,500,000 UFA Jonathan Casillas LB 1,260,000 UFA Ron Anderson LB 390,000 480,000 570,000 RFA Jabari Greer CB 2,400,000 3,600,000 4,000,000 4,200,000 UFA Patrick Robinson CB 540,000 725,000 872,500 UFA Johnny Patrick CB 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA Elbert Mack CB 700,000 UFA Corey White at DB 390,000 480,000 570,000 660,000 UFA Nick Hixon CB 390,000 RFA Malcolm Jenkins DB 1,092,000 2,264,000 UFA Roman Harper SS 4,500,000 5,250,000 6,000,000 UFA Isa Abdul-Quddus DB 465,000 555,000 RFA Rafael Bush DB 465,000 RFA |
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10-29-2012, 09:39 AM | #64 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
Why are they so bad? Man, where do you start?
From the list, I'd have to say lack of talent. It just seems we have 11 mediocre players, no real "positive" stand-out at any position. |
10-29-2012, 05:24 PM | #65 |
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[QUOTE=jeanpierre;452829]Saints Defensive Salaries - (Name, Pos, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
Sedrick Ellis DT kick to the curb Brodrick Bunkley DT Akiem Hicks DT Tyrunn Walker DT Tom Johnson DT kick to the curb Will Smith DE kick to the curb Cameron Jordan DE Junior Galette DE Turk McBride DE kick to the curb Martez Wilson E/LB Curtis Lofton LB Jonathan Vilma LB kick to the curb David Hawthorne LB Scott Shanle LB kick to the curb Will Herring LB kick to the curb Jonathan Casillas LB kick to the curb Ron Anderson LB WHO? Jabari Greer CB Patrick Robinson CB Johnny Patrick CB Elbert Mack CB Corey White DB Nick Hixon CB Malcolm Jenkins DB kick to the curb Roman Harper SS Isa Abdul-Quddus DB Rafael Bush DB |
10-29-2012, 05:33 PM | #66 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
Thats a head scratcher there Mike.... You kept Robinson/White/Patrick?
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10-29-2012, 06:29 PM | #67 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
What really hurt was when I watched the NFL.com highlights clip this morning and at one point, about a third of the way through the clip, the Denver player, Thomas makes a big gain and the analyst just says, "is the Saints cornerback even trying"!!!!! Man, that just about sums it up!!!!
We are ranked dead last on Defence, its just heartbreaking to watch! If only we could bring back the Dome Patrol!!!! Drew was trying his best IMO but he must be tempted to start thinking about that fact that as soon as he passes for a score he just knows the opposition are going to score on their next series, almost every time. That must be a bitter pill to swallow! Lets hope we can get a better performance from the team in the next two home games!!!!! |
10-29-2012, 06:34 PM | #68 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
Not really bro. When a quarterback has all day to throw the ball, I don't care who is in coverage. They would suck just as bad. It all starts up front. We put boot's to a$$'s from the front back. We can't realistically boot everyone that needs to be booted, so lets start with the line and work back.
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10-29-2012, 11:36 PM | #69 |
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
The big plays allowed by the safeties are a big part of the problem; that said...
When building/rebuilding a defense, it does start at the line of scrimmage... Now is Hicks a Starter, Rotation, or Role Player? Let's get him even more pt and find out... |
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10-30-2012, 06:40 AM | #70 |
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I found the title of this article painfully laughable...
Saints defensive brain trust knows it has work to do | Shreveporttimes | shreveporttimes.com "...according to STATS LLC New Orleans is the first team to give up 400 or more yards in seven consecutive games since 1950." |
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