Brees letting the team down

NOS2SB · 11-30-2012, 04:22 AM

The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional.

burningmetal · 11-30-2012, 04:34 AM

I have learned one thing, for sure, since joining this site. You can never, under any circumstances, place any blame on Drew Brees. It's always someone else's fault, and any conclusion to the contrary means we "must have forgotten about the first 40 years". And every time someone questions his play in a game, it means we're blaming the whole season on him.

I agree with dizzle on this one about the last two weeks. It might not be popular to say Brees sucks right now, but guess what? He does. I'm not predicting he'll never win a game again, but I'm sure that will immediately be the assumption upon reading this, for many people. So be it. He has his entire offense healthy again, his defense was great for the last 3 quarters, and yes there were a couple crucial drops, but the face of the franchise can't let that snowball into 5 turnovers and numerous near turnovers. Last week was largely his and the offensive line's fault, but this game was at least 85 to 90 percent on him.

There's nothing wrong with a little honesty. I'm still a Drew Brees fan, but I'm not a fan of his play right now.

Crusader · 11-30-2012, 05:31 AM

I didn't see the 5th pick but the first 4 was all on Brees. First one was thrown way to late but I can buy that one. Second really misplaced to Ivorys back shoulder in a rough spot, throw that one out of bounds. Very early in your career as a QB you ar thaught not to throw across your body especially while not having your feet on the ground voila pick no 3. 4th was horrible protection but still just take the damn sack.

Saint_LB · 11-30-2012, 06:14 AM

He may not have played well for the last couple of games, but, man...did you catch that pre-game chant? You can tell they worked their butt's off getting that down! Too bad they didn't spend that much time practicing football.

Brees didn't just suddenly become a mediocre QB. It took a whole offseason and an unbalanced payroll for that to happen. Great QB's become average when they have people in their face all night. If only we could afford to pay our offensive linemen more. Oh well...here's a phrase that we all must remember. "Wait until next year!"

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that
I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked

Don't criticise people for having there own views

Just for my own personal understanding.

What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"?

Am I close?

dizzle88 · 11-30-2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Just for my own personal understanding.

What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"?

Am I close?

Nope not close at all

Everyone can have their own views about eachother, I never said they couldn't

But calling me a bandwagon fan because I'm saying brees is to blame is absurd

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Nope not close at all

Everyone can have their own views about eachother, I never said they couldn't

But calling me a bandwagon fan because I'm saying brees is to blame is absurd

You saying Brees it 100% to blame when a coach with a damned good running game decided to force a QB that is having an off night and throwing picks to keep throwing picks is absurd.

Thomas was averaging 6 yards per carry and healthy. The run was abandoned because poor game management sent us into the 1/2 down by two scores.

You blaming Brees for what was probably the tide turner for this game, abysmal clock and game management just before the 1/2 is absurd.

Cause and effect (adj)-
noting a relationship between actions or events such that one or more are the result of the other or others.

In military terms - When your weapon is malfunctioning you go to another fkn weapon. On int 3 brees would have been benched for Daniels, and PT would have been the work horse.

NonieT · 11-30-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You saying Brees it 100% to blame when a coach with a damned good running game decided to force a QB that is having an off night and throwing picks to keep throwing picks is absurd.

Thomas was averaging 6 yards per carry and healthy. The run was abandoned because poor game management sent us into the 1/2 down by two scores.

You blaming Brees for what was probably the tide turner for this game, abysmal clock and game management just before the 1/2 is absurd.

Cause and effect (adj)-
noting a relationship between actions or events such that one or more are the result of the other or others.

In military terms - When your weapon is malfunctioning you go to another fkn weapon. On int 3 brees would have been benched for Daniels, and PT would have been the work horse.

I agree. The coaches should have never abandoned the run. It was working. Brees should not have had to throw so much.

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

I agree. The coaches should have never abandoned the run. It was working. Brees should not have had to throw so much.

He should have not been ALLOWED to throw so much.

NonieT · 11-30-2012, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He should have not been ALLOWED to throw so much.

Same difference!

11-30-2012, 04:22 AM	#11
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Re: Brees letting the team down The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional.

11-30-2012, 04:34 AM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees letting the team down I have learned one thing, for sure, since joining this site. You can never, under any circumstances, place any blame on Drew Brees. It's always someone else's fault, and any conclusion to the contrary means we "must have forgotten about the first 40 years". And every time someone questions his play in a game, it means we're blaming the whole season on him. I agree with dizzle on this one about the last two weeks. It might not be popular to say Brees sucks right now, but guess what? He does. I'm not predicting he'll never win a game again, but I'm sure that will immediately be the assumption upon reading this, for many people. So be it. He has his entire offense healthy again, his defense was great for the last 3 quarters, and yes there were a couple crucial drops, but the face of the franchise can't let that snowball into 5 turnovers and numerous near turnovers. Last week was largely his and the offensive line's fault, but this game was at least 85 to 90 percent on him. There's nothing wrong with a little honesty. I'm still a Drew Brees fan, but I'm not a fan of his play right now. Crusader, dizzle88, FinSaint and 2 others like this.
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11-30-2012, 05:31 AM	#13
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Brees letting the team down I didn't see the 5th pick but the first 4 was all on Brees. First one was thrown way to late but I can buy that one. Second really misplaced to Ivorys back shoulder in a rough spot, throw that one out of bounds. Very early in your career as a QB you ar thaught not to throw across your body especially while not having your feet on the ground voila pick no 3. 4th was horrible protection but still just take the damn sack.

11-30-2012, 06:14 AM	#14
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Brees letting the team down He may not have played well for the last couple of games, but, man...did you catch that pre-game chant? You can tell they worked their butt's off getting that down! Too bad they didn't spend that much time practicing football. Brees didn't just suddenly become a mediocre QB. It took a whole offseason and an unbalanced payroll for that to happen. Great QB's become average when they have people in their face all night. If only we could afford to pay our offensive linemen more. Oh well...here's a phrase that we all must remember. "Wait until next year!"
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11-30-2012, 07:18 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by dizzle88 Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked Don't criticise people for having there own views Just for my own personal understanding. What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"? Am I close?

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11-30-2012, 07:27 AM	#16
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by TheOak Just for my own personal understanding. What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"? Am I close? Nope not close at all Everyone can have their own views about eachother, I never said they couldn't But calling me a bandwagon fan because I'm saying brees is to blame is absurd

11-30-2012, 08:07 AM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by dizzle88 Nope not close at all Everyone can have their own views about eachother, I never said they couldn't But calling me a bandwagon fan because I'm saying brees is to blame is absurd You saying Brees it 100% to blame when a coach with a damned good running game decided to force a QB that is having an off night and throwing picks to keep throwing picks is absurd. Thomas was averaging 6 yards per carry and healthy. The run was abandoned because poor game management sent us into the 1/2 down by two scores. You blaming Brees for what was probably the tide turner for this game, abysmal clock and game management just before the 1/2 is absurd. Cause and effect (adj)- noting a relationship between actions or events such that one or more are the result of the other or others. In military terms - When your weapon is malfunctioning you go to another fkn weapon. On int 3 brees would have been benched for Daniels, and PT would have been the work horse. Rell&Gold likes this.
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11-30-2012, 08:19 AM	#18
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by TheOak You saying Brees it 100% to blame when a coach with a damned good running game decided to force a QB that is having an off night and throwing picks to keep throwing picks is absurd. Thomas was averaging 6 yards per carry and healthy. The run was abandoned because poor game management sent us into the 1/2 down by two scores. You blaming Brees for what was probably the tide turner for this game, abysmal clock and game management just before the 1/2 is absurd. Cause and effect (adj)- noting a relationship between actions or events such that one or more are the result of the other or others. In military terms - When your weapon is malfunctioning you go to another fkn weapon. On int 3 brees would have been benched for Daniels, and PT would have been the work horse. I agree. The coaches should have never abandoned the run. It was working. Brees should not have had to throw so much. W. Kovacs and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-30-2012, 08:29 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by NonieT I agree. The coaches should have never abandoned the run. It was working. Brees should not have had to throw so much. He should have not been ALLOWED to throw so much.

11-30-2012, 08:37 AM	#20
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by TheOak He should have not been ALLOWED to throw so much. Same difference!
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