Brees letting the team down

NonieT · 12-02-2012, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away.

Carmichael doesn't run it either. And as far as being asked to throw it more, he shouldn't be. He's a professional but he's also a human being. When you throw 50+ time a game interceptions happen. They should have given him some help. He couldn't win the game all by himself and he shouldn't have to.

Jamessr · 12-02-2012, 08:18 PM

Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes.

I just wonder where they keep the dolphins...

FinSaint · 12-03-2012, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes.

I just wonder where they keep the dolphins...

Nice SP reference!

TheOak · 12-03-2012, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk?

The tone here is that Brees has more power than Goodell. Drew decides the plays, Drew decided how much he was going to be paid, Drew decided GW needed to go and picked Spags, Drew decided New Coke was a great idea.

No one wants to blame the people that actually make the decisions.

Jamessr · 12-03-2012, 07:49 AM

I honestly think alot of this is Pete Carmicheal. Marshal Faulk said it too..
Some people are going to be exposed and IMHO That is Pete Carmicheal. He's basically calling the shots and he just can't adjust. He abandons the running game way too early... He ask way to much of our quaterback with throwing 50+ a game. Drew had a horrile game vs the Falcons and the only option we had was to bench him?
Had Sean payton been there we all know the running game would have been there to open up play action. He would have settled Drew down and we could of won that game.

Let Carmicheal goto Boston or where ever it was he was offered a job. I'll go and be the offensive coordinator next year with Sean Paytonn.3 years from now I'll be considered a genius...

TheOak · 12-03-2012, 07:51 AM

Its not just Pete James... Pete has a boss, Joe Vitt stands by and watches... Joe Vitt has a boss and that's Mickey Loomis who stands by and watches... basketball.

Jamessr · 12-03-2012, 07:55 AM

I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes...

TheOak · 12-03-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes...

This is by design... Designed by Goodell and the league.

Boutte · 12-03-2012, 04:36 PM

Carmichael became a rockstar last year Payton went down. Before that he the Mr Peepers looking guy that followed Payton around on the sidelines. When SP went down Carmichael was credited with calling the plays but Payton was in his ear during the game and setting up the game plan during the week. I think we forget sometimes what a magician Payton is.

UK_WhoDat · 12-03-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

....His magical run is OVER....

Frankly THAT run was brilliant but for me too distracting. I so much wanted solid Saints football first.

Originally Posted by Crusader

.....Drops has been a bigger problem this year than before but thats not the whole story. ....

Agree

Originally Posted by FinSaint

......I know Brees will elevate his level of performances in the coming weeks....

Agree

Originally Posted by FinSaint

......Henderson and Morgan .... to put their brakes on and come back to the ball instead of running to the ball. Morgan has made some circus-type catches out of these situations, but it was only a few games ago when Morgan was slightly injured because of one such play....

And Colston took one last week that would have a "miracle" completion for both he and Brees if he could have held on

12-02-2012, 12:14 PM	#61
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by NOS2SB Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away. Carmichael doesn't run it either. And as far as being asked to throw it more, he shouldn't be. He's a professional but he's also a human being. When you throw 50+ time a game interceptions happen. They should have given him some help. He couldn't win the game all by himself and he shouldn't have to.
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921

12-02-2012, 08:18 PM	#62
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes. I just wonder where they keep the dolphins... FinSaint likes this.

12-03-2012, 01:17 AM	#63
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by Jamessr Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes. I just wonder where they keep the dolphins... Nice SP reference!

12-03-2012, 07:40 AM	#64
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by Boutte Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk? The tone here is that Brees has more power than Goodell. Drew decides the plays, Drew decided how much he was going to be paid, Drew decided GW needed to go and picked Spags, Drew decided New Coke was a great idea. No one wants to blame the people that actually make the decisions. Jamessr likes this.

12-03-2012, 07:49 AM	#65
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down I honestly think alot of this is Pete Carmicheal. Marshal Faulk said it too.. Some people are going to be exposed and IMHO That is Pete Carmicheal. He's basically calling the shots and he just can't adjust. He abandons the running game way too early... He ask way to much of our quaterback with throwing 50+ a game. Drew had a horrile game vs the Falcons and the only option we had was to bench him? Had Sean payton been there we all know the running game would have been there to open up play action. He would have settled Drew down and we could of won that game. Let Carmicheal goto Boston or where ever it was he was offered a job. I'll go and be the offensive coordinator next year with Sean Paytonn.3 years from now I'll be considered a genius... Boutte likes this.
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12-03-2012, 07:51 AM	#66
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Brees letting the team down Its not just Pete James... Pete has a boss, Joe Vitt stands by and watches... Joe Vitt has a boss and that's Mickey Loomis who stands by and watches... basketball.

12-03-2012, 07:55 AM	#67
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes...

12-03-2012, 07:57 AM	#68
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by Jamessr I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes... This is by design... Designed by Goodell and the league.

12-03-2012, 04:36 PM	#69
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Brees letting the team down Carmichael became a rockstar last year Payton went down. Before that he the Mr Peepers looking guy that followed Payton around on the sidelines. When SP went down Carmichael was credited with calling the plays but Payton was in his ear during the game and setting up the game plan during the week. I think we forget sometimes what a magician Payton is. SaintsBro likes this.

12-03-2012, 04:38 PM	#70
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints ....His magical run is OVER.... Frankly THAT run was brilliant but for me too distracting. I so much wanted solid Saints football first. Originally Posted by Crusader .....Drops has been a bigger problem this year than before but thats not the whole story. .... Agree Originally Posted by FinSaint ......I know Brees will elevate his level of performances in the coming weeks.... Agree Originally Posted by FinSaint ......Henderson and Morgan .... to put their brakes on and come back to the ball instead of running to the ball. Morgan has made some circus-type catches out of these situations, but it was only a few games ago when Morgan was slightly injured because of one such play.... And Colston took one last week that would have a "miracle" completion for both he and Brees if he could have held on

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