Brees letting the team down

RockyMountainSaint · 11-30-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that
I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked

Don't criticise people for having there own views

My apologies to you sir.

I consumed more refreshments than is advisable.

NOS2SB · 11-30-2012, 03:22 AM

The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional.

NonieT · 11-30-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional.

Drew's not the only person to blame. Some of it is on Carmichael's shoulders; him and his pedestrian play calling! He needs to not abandon the run, especially when its working. This is the second week in the row he's done that and as a result Drew has to throw the ball more than he needs to.

NOS2SB · 12-01-2012, 01:18 AM

Carmichael doesn't throw the ball.

NOS2SB · 12-01-2012, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Drew's not the only person to blame. Some of it is on Carmichael's shoulders; him and his pedestrian play calling! He needs to not abandon the run, especially when its working. This is the second week in the row he's done that and as a result Drew has to throw the ball more than he needs to.

Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away.

NonieT · 12-02-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away.

Carmichael doesn't run it either. And as far as being asked to throw it more, he shouldn't be. He's a professional but he's also a human being. When you throw 50+ time a game interceptions happen. They should have given him some help. He couldn't win the game all by himself and he shouldn't have to.

burningmetal · 11-30-2012, 03:34 AM

I have learned one thing, for sure, since joining this site. You can never, under any circumstances, place any blame on Drew Brees. It's always someone else's fault, and any conclusion to the contrary means we "must have forgotten about the first 40 years". And every time someone questions his play in a game, it means we're blaming the whole season on him.

I agree with dizzle on this one about the last two weeks. It might not be popular to say Brees sucks right now, but guess what? He does. I'm not predicting he'll never win a game again, but I'm sure that will immediately be the assumption upon reading this, for many people. So be it. He has his entire offense healthy again, his defense was great for the last 3 quarters, and yes there were a couple crucial drops, but the face of the franchise can't let that snowball into 5 turnovers and numerous near turnovers. Last week was largely his and the offensive line's fault, but this game was at least 85 to 90 percent on him.

There's nothing wrong with a little honesty. I'm still a Drew Brees fan, but I'm not a fan of his play right now.

Crusader · 11-30-2012, 04:31 AM

I didn't see the 5th pick but the first 4 was all on Brees. First one was thrown way to late but I can buy that one. Second really misplaced to Ivorys back shoulder in a rough spot, throw that one out of bounds. Very early in your career as a QB you ar thaught not to throw across your body especially while not having your feet on the ground voila pick no 3. 4th was horrible protection but still just take the damn sack.

Saint_LB · 11-30-2012, 05:14 AM

He may not have played well for the last couple of games, but, man...did you catch that pre-game chant? You can tell they worked their butt's off getting that down! Too bad they didn't spend that much time practicing football.

Brees didn't just suddenly become a mediocre QB. It took a whole offseason and an unbalanced payroll for that to happen. Great QB's become average when they have people in their face all night. If only we could afford to pay our offensive linemen more. Oh well...here's a phrase that we all must remember. "Wait until next year!"

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that
I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked

Don't criticise people for having there own views

Just for my own personal understanding.

What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"?

Am I close?

11-30-2012, 03:06 PM	#1
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by dizzle88 Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked Don't criticise people for having there own views My apologies to you sir. I consumed more refreshments than is advisable. UK_WhoDat, SapperSaint and Crusader like this.

11-30-2012, 03:22 AM	#2
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Re: Brees letting the team down The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional.

11-30-2012, 02:06 PM	#3
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by NOS2SB The only person to blame for this loss is Drew Brees. The defense did exceptional. Drew's not the only person to blame. Some of it is on Carmichael's shoulders; him and his pedestrian play calling! He needs to not abandon the run, especially when its working. This is the second week in the row he's done that and as a result Drew has to throw the ball more than he needs to.
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921

12-01-2012, 01:18 AM	#4
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Re: Brees letting the team down Carmichael doesn't throw the ball.

12-01-2012, 01:20 AM	#5
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by NonieT Drew's not the only person to blame. Some of it is on Carmichael's shoulders; him and his pedestrian play calling! He needs to not abandon the run, especially when its working. This is the second week in the row he's done that and as a result Drew has to throw the ball more than he needs to. Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away.

12-02-2012, 11:14 AM	#6
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by NOS2SB Got it, but Carmicheal doesn't throw the ball. If Brees is asked to throw the ball more, he is a professional and should know when to throw it away. Carmichael doesn't run it either. And as far as being asked to throw it more, he shouldn't be. He's a professional but he's also a human being. When you throw 50+ time a game interceptions happen. They should have given him some help. He couldn't win the game all by himself and he shouldn't have to.
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921

11-30-2012, 03:34 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees letting the team down I have learned one thing, for sure, since joining this site. You can never, under any circumstances, place any blame on Drew Brees. It's always someone else's fault, and any conclusion to the contrary means we "must have forgotten about the first 40 years". And every time someone questions his play in a game, it means we're blaming the whole season on him. I agree with dizzle on this one about the last two weeks. It might not be popular to say Brees sucks right now, but guess what? He does. I'm not predicting he'll never win a game again, but I'm sure that will immediately be the assumption upon reading this, for many people. So be it. He has his entire offense healthy again, his defense was great for the last 3 quarters, and yes there were a couple crucial drops, but the face of the franchise can't let that snowball into 5 turnovers and numerous near turnovers. Last week was largely his and the offensive line's fault, but this game was at least 85 to 90 percent on him. There's nothing wrong with a little honesty. I'm still a Drew Brees fan, but I'm not a fan of his play right now. Crusader, dizzle88, FinSaint and 2 others like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-30-2012, 04:31 AM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,051	Re: Brees letting the team down I didn't see the 5th pick but the first 4 was all on Brees. First one was thrown way to late but I can buy that one. Second really misplaced to Ivorys back shoulder in a rough spot, throw that one out of bounds. Very early in your career as a QB you ar thaught not to throw across your body especially while not having your feet on the ground voila pick no 3. 4th was horrible protection but still just take the damn sack.

11-30-2012, 05:14 AM	#9
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Brees letting the team down He may not have played well for the last couple of games, but, man...did you catch that pre-game chant? You can tell they worked their butt's off getting that down! Too bad they didn't spend that much time practicing football. Brees didn't just suddenly become a mediocre QB. It took a whole offseason and an unbalanced payroll for that to happen. Great QB's become average when they have people in their face all night. If only we could afford to pay our offensive linemen more. Oh well...here's a phrase that we all must remember. "Wait until next year!"
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

11-30-2012, 06:18 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Originally Posted by dizzle88 Can't call me a bandwagon fan for having an opinion, A bandwagon fan would be saying there never watching again and I never said that I watch every game without fail no matter win or lose and will always do it, but my opinion is recently brees has sucked Don't criticise people for having there own views Just for my own personal understanding. What you are saying is "don't have an opinion or personal view of people who have an opinion or a personal view"? Am I close?

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